New car....what polish?

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fdu98

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i have a totally new 2006 toyota sienna, light blue...that was made in oct. 2005
i bought the car before it got to the dealer..so the car never sat at the dealer
being a totally new paint job and that we are gonna keep the car for a long time
i like to preserve that original paint job with some type of protectant..i'm willing to lose some durability of the protectant for mildness..as i dont want to use, say a wax which has cleaners and some abrasives
i have seen mcguiars TOP COAT...which has no cleaners...

any ideas??? am i on the right track?????
any suggestions would be great..as i said..its a totally new car out of the factory
thanks guys!!
 
I think you mean Mothers Top Coat, which is a good product. Durability is pretty good as well and it definitely has no cleaners or abrasives which seems to be what you're after.

You should apply a polish every once in a while to keep the paint looking as good as possible as well as to clean the paint. Clay will help with that too.
 
To keep it simple and over the counter, this is my process. Wash, Mothers Caly Bar, If you have a PC, Mothers Power Polish 1, Mothers Reflections Car Wax and finish with Mothers Top Coat. If you don't have a PC, then go right to Mothers Reflections Wax.
 
If you want a wax with no cleaners, I love using Pinnacle Souveran, though I am sure there are others pretty good (Poorboy's Natty's Blue for one). For a sealant with no cleaners, PB's EX-P is one I use every day.
 
First of all Welcome to Detail City and congrats on the new ride.
Ok now let's get down to business. Even though your car is brand new you will want to Clay the car to remove any paint overspray, rail dust, or any other containiments that would be on your paint. If you don't remove these they will seriously reduce the life of your clear coat. Once you have clayed a clean car I would recomend a light polish to correct and marring caused by the clay bar or washes. There are hundreds of light polishes that are slightly abrasive, which I believe is necessary after a clay job. If you want to order online search for SSR1, PwC, Optimum, etc. Then, if you are ordering online, buy some 4 Star UPP, Poorboys Ex or Ex-P, Klasse SG or Wolfgang Paint Sealant. If you are going the OTC route then the members have suggested decent products. If you have any other questions, I'm sure someone has an answer.
 
budman3 said:
First of all Welcome to Detail City and congrats on the new ride.
Ok now let's get down to business. Even though your car is brand new you will want to Clay the car to remove any paint overspray, rail dust, or any other containiments that would be on your paint. If you don't remove these they will seriously reduce the life of your clear coat. Once you have clayed a clean car I would recomend a light polish to correct and marring caused by the clay bar or washes. There are hundreds of light polishes that are slightly abrasive, which I believe is necessary after a clay job. If you want to order online search for SSR1, PwC, Optimum, etc. Then, if you are ordering online, buy some 4 Star UPP, Poorboys Ex or Ex-P, Klasse SG or Wolfgang Paint Sealant. If you are going the OTC route then the members have suggested decent products. If you have any other questions, I'm sure someone has an answer.
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I agree 100% with this...tons of avenues to go down but one process that will produce great results and keep the paint in good order for a long time.
 
thanks for all the replies guys
regarding claying..i dont know if i'm up to the challenge..as i have not clayed before..and the weather is snowwy cold here in the nyc area
regarding the polishes you mentioned...as far as you guys know..which polish has none or close to no cleaners/ abrasives???? OTC variety that is

thanks again guys!!!!
 
fatchance said:
To keep it simple and over the counter, this is my process. Wash, Mothers Caly Bar, If you have a PC, Mothers Power Polish 1, Mothers Reflections Car Wax and finish with Mothers Top Coat. If you don't have a PC, then go right to Mothers Reflections Wax.
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fatchance has offered you a line of otc products, the others have given you a great line of on line products as well. it's all there whatever you decide i'm sure you will have great results. if you do complete the process try to post some pictures. concrats on your new car purchase.
 
Claying is the easiest and one of the most rewarding things we can do, but you need weather above freezing. For OTC, the Mothers or Meguiar's Clay systems are both good; I like the Mother's pack because it also comes with a Cleaner Wax with very little abrasive quality but some cleaning.
brenton
 
budman3 said:
If you are going the OTC route then the members have suggested decent products.
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I'd put the New Mothers line up against any botique line. In fact I have and can have my car looking better at a fraction of the cost. I've used many of the botique products and bang for the buck Mothers is as good if not better.
 
fatchance said:
I'd put the New Mothers line up against any botique line. In fact I have and can have my car looking better at a fraction of the cost. I've used many of the botique products and bang for the buck Mothers is as good if not better.
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Fatchance

That's a pretty big statement but I agree that Mothers for OTC is a good selection....I've used allot of products over the last 25 plus years...and the ones that I have used threw this site are some of the best that I have ever seen....IMO
 
thanks again guys
tell me if i'm mis-understaning something...dont most or all wax's have cleaning/ abrasives in them???? if so..this is why i'm trying to avoid them...since i have a virgin paint job out of the factory from oct 2005..

thats why i been leaning towards polishes or such...such as the mothers top coat...which is hard to find...i did find 1 store selling it for $15.

regarding claying...arent i taking a little layer of clear coat off???

thanks again guys for the tips and helps
 
If you're worried about wax and clay being too abrasive for the finish then you might as well put your car into a vacuum chamber. You'll abrade your car's paint a whole lot more by driving on a dusty road then by waxing. While clay, wax, and just about anything else are minimally abrasive you'll have a much better looking vehicle if you take care of it, keep a layer of wax on it at all times, and develop good washig technique. You're not going to wear through the paint or the clear unless you keep your car for a century, waxing frequently (even for us). The motor will go before the paint will if you take care of it.
 
FDU- Claying is abrasive but if you are gentle enough and use enough caution you wont cause any harm to your clearcoat. There are different waxes that are cleaner waxes and others that aren't. The ones I listed above are not cleaner waxes, they are synthetic sealants which are not cleaners aswell. Even with a cleaner wax you won't be removing clear coat that will cause any damage. I would suggest getting some type of protection on the paint for the remainder of the winter, search about claying and clay in the spring when the weather is better.

Fatchance- Mothers is a good line of products but there are a lot more products that I like better. I had a bum batch of the Power Polish and they sent me a whole new bottle free of charge which I see as great customer service. However, UPP and Ex-P are my favorite sealants and they don't compare to Mothers Synwax. And Top Coat is costing $15 where I can get Ex-P for the same price. The power polish is impressive but isn't strong enough to remove a lot of swirls either. Just my opinion but there are better products out there rather than OTC.
 
fdu98 said:
thanks again guys
tell me if i'm mis-understaning something...dont most or all wax's have cleaning/ abrasives in them???? if so..this is why i'm trying to avoid them...since i have a virgin paint job out of the factory from oct 2005..

thats why i been leaning towards polishes or such...such as the mothers top coat...which is hard to find...i did find 1 store selling it for $15.

regarding claying...arent i taking a little layer of clear coat off???

thanks again guys for the tips and helps
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I'd like to ask why you are so dead set on not using a cleaner wax...but would use a polish....polish will take a SMALL amount of clear coat but will not offer any protection...clear wax will do somewhat the same but offer protection.....if you worried about taking off some clear coat....its not likely you will ever go threw the clear on your new ride....to keep the paint in great shape or looking like new....polish then wax is one way.....clay is also something that I would suggest its easy and will clean up the surface so that the polish will work better.
 
tubafeak said:
If you're worried about wax and clay being too abrasive for the finish then you might as well put your car into a vacuum chamber. You'll abrade your car's paint a whole lot more by driving on a dusty road then by waxing. While clay, wax, and just about anything else are minimally abrasive you'll have a much better looking vehicle if you take care of it, keep a layer of wax on it at all times, and develop good washig technique. You're not going to wear through the paint or the clear unless you keep your car for a century, waxing frequently (even for us). The motor will go before the paint will if you take care of it.
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Pretty good post and I agree. No type of wax will be truly "abrasive free." You'll have friction from your applicator at the very least. And if you use a dirty applicator or wash mitt, you'll see fine scracthes after the first go 'round. My suggestion would be to read up on some of the advice you've been given in the thread, and do some more researching in the other areas of DC.

No polish is going to be abrasive and/or cleaner free, as prepping the paint is the whole idea behind a polish.

Waxes may (or may not) contain cleaners, but they will all contain something other than pure wax (things such as carrier solvents, etc.). If you use the right technique, I very seriously doubt you'll do much harm to your paint. Keep reading on here and you'll soon have some very sound ideas for techniques to follow.

It's already been said in the thread, but new paint needs care just as paint that's not new needs care. Things get on/in the paint from sitting at the assembly location, shipping, and any places in between. Don't think that just because it hasn't sit at the dealership's lot that it hasn't seen any contamination.

Good luck, and congrats on your new vehicle. :)
 
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