New car and UV protection

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rodeo-clown

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I'll be picking up my new black car this week, and this is what I've got planned.

A good wash with Zymol car wash. An application of Klasse All in One then a coat of Pinnacle Souveran.

Does that sound OK to you guys? The car is black. More importantly, as I live in Australia, I'd like to protect the car as much as possible from the harm UV rays. Is the above process a good start?
 
That a great start you might also think about a sealant for a bit more protection. You would do this right after the Klasse wait 24 hours then put on the wax
 
Wlcome to DC
That sounds like a good plan. If the finish feels rough after the wash, I would also clay the areas that need it. A new vehicle should not need anything stronger than AIO unless the dealership makes a mess out of the finish
 
That sounds like a good start to me too. :bigups I'd second the notions above though. I would recommend at least spot claying the vehicle and you may want to consider applying a sealant for more protection, especially in the hot Australian sun.
 
AIO is a great product. I would follow the AIO with something that has UV inhibitors. There is a great new spray on wax called Optimum. It contains the same UV inhibitors that go into automobile clearcoats. I really like this product because it goes on real easy and lasts up to five months. I have yet to verify the 5 month claim, but it seems pretty durable.
 
Thanks for your feedback guys. The general consensus is to definitely apply a sealant after Klasse AIO and before Pinnacle Souveran wax.

Just wondering, what if I skip the sealer the first time I wash, polish and wax? Would applying a sealer later down the track (say 1 month after the first polish and wax) still be effective, or is it highly recommended to do it the first time a car is polished / waxed?

There seems to be some good feedback about Poorboy's EX-P16 sealant. How is this products UV protection. Would this product fit in nicely with what I currently have :) brwill2004, I wasn't able to find Optimum on PAC or Autogeek ...?
 
If you wax before SG you'll have bonding issues, so if you do wax and let it go a month just AIO again before you apply SG (or any other sealer) and you'll be all set.

EX-P is a good product, very easy to apply and remove, but SG seems to be preferred when longevity is an issue.

The Optimum is sold on TOL:

http://www.topoftheline.com/spray-wax.html
 
Beemerboy said:
That a great start you might also think about a sealant for a bit more protection. You would do this right after the Klasse wait 24 hours then put on the wax
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Thanks for the tip Beemerboy. Just a question about the 24 hour set period. After a good wash, polish and seal, is it OK to drive the car at all, or is it better to keep it away from the elements (be it sun, wind, dust, rain) before the final wax?

I would have thought that the polish and seal is protecting the car a fair bit already, and the final wax is just the sweetener :)
 
rodeo-clown said:
Thanks for the tip Beemerboy. Just a question about the 24 hour set period. After a good wash, polish and seal, is it OK to drive the car at all, or is it better to keep it away from the elements (be it sun, wind, dust, rain) before the final wax?

I would have thought that the polish and seal is protecting the car a fair bit already, and the final wax is just the sweetener :)
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In an ideal world, yes! But this is definitely not practical. As long as the surface is free of any debris before you put the next coat of wax on, you should be good.
 
I would recommend AIO then 4* UPP then your wax....a Brilliant look and also being in a high temp (AZ) envirnment it will also protect well. I have had no issues of durability...then again it's only been a month.

Daniel
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...and don't forget about interior UV protection. New vinyl and leather is very dry in a new car, and a product with a lot of moisturizers is very important. Some water-based dressings claim SPF 40, another is at SPF 65.
 
mynci said:
That sounds like a good start to me too. :bigups I'd second the notions above though. I would recommend at least spot claying the vehicle and you may want to consider applying a sealant for more protection, especially in the hot Australian sun.
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Ok, so I've managed to wash, AIO, SG and wax the car. Looks very nice (although at the moment it is in need of another wash ASAP). On that note, I've noticed people mentioning Poorboy's Spray and Wipe Car Wash. Is this like a quick detailer? i.e. Meguiars?

With regards to claying the car...I didn't get around to it the first time, but the paint still feels very smooth. Should I be looking to do this in the next few months or so?
 
rodeo-clown said:
I've noticed people mentioning Poorboy's Spray and Wipe Car Wash. Is this like a quick detailer?
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It is a waterless wash.. Works awesome on a "not so" dirty car. I use it just about everyday on my Black dust attracting car.. I mean if the car is filthy,dont waste the good stuff !!
 
New cars don't need protection from UV ...many sit out on the dealer's lots for almost a year and are just fine. If you want something for added protection from all the other things in the air then go with a sealant not a wax. Klasse, UPP, or EX-P sound like a good place to start.
I need to order some of this Poorboy's Spray and Wash everyone talks about...
 
Antonio Waxer said:
New cars don't need protection from UV ...many sit out on the dealer's lots for almost a year and are just fine.
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I have to disagree with Antonio on this one. With the clearcoat being at it's earliest stages, it is even more susceptible to UV damage and more so 10 years later. This is especially prevalent to American made cars where we use more clear than paint as opposed to many of our German counterparts.

Why not start your car off with something great that will keep it looking great?

Most new cars these days are shipped with a spray coating of Cosmoline. This is primarily used during transport, and often is acid washed off when delievered at the dealership. The acid does not remove all of it, and claying and using a good pure polish is recommended. After that, a durable protection coat works well.

Cars that sit on a lot for even more than 4 months need polishing. I'm not saying that there is necessarily UV damage done, but lack of protection causes acid rain damage, fallout, etc..

So in the end, I am a big endorser of the dealership at least waxing the vehicles prior to them sitting out on the lots.
 
I did 3 brand new cars this last year right off the lot for customers. The finish was OK but was rough from lack of decent washing processes and shipping. In all 3 cases I washed, clayed, polished / SWR and then used a sealant. Two of the cars I was able to get back a week later for a wax topper. Of which I always washed the car first.

It seems to me that dealership cars go threw a fair amount of abuse, from sitting in the back lots, washing styles, and cheap filler wax jobs. If the car sits in direct sun for long periods of time I would have to think it would have some effect on the clear coat.
That's my take on all the brand new cars that I have worked on and thats been quite a few.
 
Being a person that keeps vehicles anywhere from 60 days to 16 years, I have seen the damage the sun can do to paint. I really think getting some protection on it as soon as you can is well worth the time and investment.

Charles
 
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