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lisricka

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Hi,

I am new here and have a couple of questions concerning the care of my new car. I have a 2004 350Z that is garage kept and only driven in good weather. The dealer applied a "sealer" to the paint and in doing so there are some very light swirls which are only apparent under certain lighting and at a certain angle. The car is black and I was wondering what would be the best polish and wax to use on a black car with the use it gets. Thanks in advance.:D
 
Welcome to the forum. This same question gets asked every other day. I would recommend doing a search using key word black car and I bet you will uncover alot of relevant threads.
 
How much experience do you have detailing? If you are just used to using off the shelf products, then it would be best to download the Autopia E-Book and read through some of DavidBs articles, especially his one on the perfect shine.



Without seeing your car in person, it is hard to say what you exact starting point should be.



Oh, by the way, in the future, do not allow a dealer to polish/wax/seal your car. In fact, it should be illegal for dealers to perform any detailing based on what I see from them nearly every day.
 
I offer my 'exotic' customers an 8x12 'poster' which simply says: "Please Do Not Wash This Car" in both English and Spanish.



I sarcastically tell them, "Don't come whining to me if the Dealer washes your car!"



That doesn't address Dealer Detailing, which is a whole 'nother horror story!



Jim
 
:welcome to Autopia!



As said, you should familiarize yourself with the process and do some heavy duty reading. Decide how much work you're willing to do, what is within your limits, and what kind of products and "routine" suits you best.



Also, keep in mind that if you bought any kind of warrantied sealant or protection package from the dealer, polishing and waxing over it WILL remove it and void any kind of warranty you have with it. Sorry, but that's why these things are so often regarded as bad ideas and poor purchases. :(
 
Two months ago I bought a new black Porsche. I asked the dealer not to prep the car. Nevertheless I found swirl marks which probably came from the factory or the initial cleaning when the car arrived at the dealers. I suggest that you forget the dealer, if you complain they will turn the car over to the guy who put the swirl marks on the car in the first place.



I used Menzerna Intensive Polish followed by Menzerna Final Polish. This is what the factory uses. Then I applied Klasse AIO and Klasse SG. Finally, P21S Carnauba Paste Wax. The car now looks like a new car should.
 
jimamary said:
I offer my 'exotic' customers an 8x12 'poster' which simply says: "Please Do Not Wash This Car" in both English and Spanish.

Jim
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Jim...



Acutally, how do you say, "Please Do Not Wash This Car" in Spanish?



I usually put one up in English when my car goes in for service, but the BMW dealer still washes it :(



May be the Spanish one will help... :)



Thanks!

-Chris
 
Hey Frank F. When I was at my Porsche dealer all of the new cars had swirl marks in them even before they were detailed by the dealer. I mentioned this to the dealer and he said it probably occured at the Vehicle Processing Center when the cars get off the ship and get the cosmoline removed. Unbelieveable. You cannot buy a Porsche in the US that is swirl free.
 
I saw it in a showroom and realized that the protective coating has just been recently peeled off the paint (white sheets). There were still a little adhesive left by the edges of the protective blue foam bumpers that stick to the rear bumper cover. I took this car home just the way it is and it is swirl free save for some fine scratches near the driver quarter panel from people putting their grubby little hands there in the showroom.



I am still looking for a surefire technique of preventing the service center from touching the painjob when it goes in for routine maintenance service.



My wife use to have a VW Cabrio and would tape a notice to the steering wheel center reminding the tech not to wash her car. She did this once and it worked. The tech even replied in writing on the steering wheel (you're welcome).



Telling the service advisor is not enough, it has to be verified relayed to the tech that works on the car and maybe even the porter that will be moving your car.



What would also help may be to deliver the car to the service center already perfectly detailed, then maybe they won't see a need to wash the car after they are done. This has worked for me before.
 
I have a 'poster' for my personal vehicles (and a few clients) that in a sleeve protector, and clearly reads:



Please Do Not Wash This Car, Thank You



Por Favor No Limpie, Gracias



Jim
 
jimamary said:
I have a 'poster' for my personal vehicles (and a few clients) that in a sleeve protector, and clearly reads:



Please Do Not Wash This Car, Thank You



Por Favor No Limpie, Gracias



Jim
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Jim: It should probably read:



Por Favor No Lavar Este Auto, Gracias



It's a more accurate translation to your english statement and a bit clearer. Wash=Lavar, Clean=Limpiar:D



Ricardo
 
ricastm8 said:
Jim: It should probably read:



Por Favor No Lavar Este Auto, Gracias



It's a more accurate translation to your english statement and a bit clearer. Wash=Lavar, Clean=Limpiar:D



Ricardo
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Actually, you need to conjugate lavar, because what you said was:



Please do not to wash this car, thanks



So you should write:



Por favor, no lave este coche, gracias.



Or perhaps:



Si Ud. lave este coche, voy a matarse.
 
The only Spanish I know is what I order at Mexican restaurants (and quite honestly, the authenticity is debatable in the land of bland Tex-Mex) and a phrase I learned from Steve Martin. "Donde este casa de pee pee". ;)
 
Logik said:
Actually, you need to conjugate lavar, because what you said was:



Please do not to wash this car, thanks



So you should write:



Por favor, no lave este coche, gracias.
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Spanish grammar is different, my sentence may sound funny if you use the dictionary defintion of "Lavar" wich should be "To wash" but infinitive (?? non conjugated) verbs in spanish do not include the "To" part so my sentence is accurate;) .



Now about your second sentence:





Si Ud. lave este coche, voy a matarse.
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It should read:



"Si Ud. lava este coche, voy a marlo"

:D

(26some years speaking spanish can help;) )



Any way that las sentence ought to do it:xyxthumbs



Ricardo
 
ricastm8 said:
"Si Ud. lava este coche, voy a marlo"



Ricardo
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Not to derail, but I don't understand why-- I'm sure you're right though. Isn't voy a matarse basically "I'm going to kill you"? What is marlo? I'd assume lo is added to mar, but I still don't know.
 
Logik said:
Not to derail, but I don't understand why-- I'm sure you're right though. Isn't voy a matarse basically "I'm going to kill you"? What is marlo? I'd assume lo is added to mar, but I still don't know.
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Sorry Logik, it's a typo it sould've been



"Si Ud. lava este coche, voy a matarlo"



The verb "matar" means "to kill" so "I'm going to kill you" means "Voy a matarlo" or "voy a matarte" the former being if you want to be more proper or polite :o .



I guess what I should be learning is how to TYPE:p



Ricardo
 
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