Need some help with FP and IP. Which is which?

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So I have two generic squeeze bottles from a friend that are labeled "IP" and "FP," respectively. However, I'm not sure the labels are correct, here is why: When I fired up the UDM, I started with some IP and an orange LC pad. It became translucent VERY quickly, within 1 to 2 passes at speed 6 (after it was spread with speed 3). It dusted pretty heavily after the first pass, so i finished up and buffed out.



Afterwards, I grabbed the bottle labeled "FP" and started going at it with a LC white pad. It seemed to take forever and never completely broke down (there was still a considerable amount of polish after 5 minutes of speed 6). There was no dusting throughout the time using this second polish. This is when I got suspicious that the bottles were labeled incorrectly. However, the results are pretty good. There is no hazing, and looks great right now. Of course, it's well past sunset so I don't have any good way to examine the paint for micromarring or hazing. If the weather permits I'll check it out tomorrow morning.



So what do you guys think?
 
Typically, FP doesn't dust much if at all, especially in comparison to SIP or 106. Sounds as if the two are labeled correctly. FWIW, IP is white and FP is grey.



HTH
 
well both are pretty white so that's that. Is FP normally hard to break down with a white pad? And how long does IP normally take on udm 6 with an orange?
 
I suspect the "colors" may have changed some? But the version of IP that I have is white and the FPII is gray (neglected to add the "II") in my original post. I use Super Intense Polish now (SIP) and I honestly forget the working time differences between it and IP, but I'm sure they're probably about the same. There has been discussion on here before about the Menz #s and the "confusion" surrounding them.



FWIW, the "finishing" Menz polishes like 106 and 85RD are gray too. Would suggest going with 106 over the FPII if you're going to buy more of the finishing polish.



HTH
 
landcruiser said:
I suspect the "colors" may have changed some? But the version of IP that I have is white and the FPII is gray (neglected to add the "II") in my original post.
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I think you misunderstood me, IP is white, but there is FP and FPII, FP is white, and FPII is gray. If the OP actually has FP, rather than FPII, then both his polishes will be white (as he subsequently noted they are).
 
They seem correct to me. IP dusts pretty fast for me and fp does take a bit to break down. You may be able to use fp only, depending on the paint and pad.
 
both my IP and FP are white. I think IP is a little thicker as indicated by the extra shake I have to give it to squirt onto the pad. FP only takes like 1 shake and it's ready to come out. It's pretty easy to tell the difference, especially once you start working it. FP def has a more oily sheen to it and doesn't dust near as much.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I think you misunderstood me, IP is white, but there is FP and FPII, FP is white, and FPII is gray. If the OP actually has FP, rather than FPII, then both his polishes will be white (as he subsequently noted they are).
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Probably did--I've never used or seen FP, only FPII. Thx for the info
 
ok then I'm guessing that they are indeed labeled correctly. The one labeled IP did manage to remove all the swirls while the fp didn't quite do that on he hood. Only question there is that the hood is a repaint Anyway, we'll see how this goes. Thanks for the help!
 
FP and FPII take forever to "dust" or "breakdown" compared to IP and SIP. This is the only experience I've noticed with my UDM on a LC CCS white. I can almost always never breakdown FPII and I'm afraid to go any longer.
 
Yeah. I ended up going at the FP at speed 6 (LC CCS white) for about 4-5 mins per section. Although that aspect of FP makes it very difficult to determine when to stop, I'm sure that through experience I would learn how long it takes to make the perfect finish without wasting time. I have to note, though, that the finish is completely swirl-free, and I can't help but look at the paint from every possible angle in the sun when it's out. The best part is I never find any swirls!
 
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