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sacdetailing

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My cousin is a mechanic (sometimes he does body work) invited to be a part of the shop he just got, him, his dad will do their work w/e and theire giving me space for one car space for detailing, but the problem is that i will have to use waterless wash methods or just use minimal water because they dont let that in the shops. next street (half a minute drive) there is self service car wash (no lol i will use my own stuff, just for the pressure washer water) is this idea possible? i dont need tons of money because am finishing high school (home school) and going to college it, will just be my hobby/work to pay for my gas/other stuff . Can you give me any tips or ideas please. (btw am not a noob to detailing, i just want to get my own space.) am getting insured also, and the shop rent is really cheap. and the wheather here is good because am from California.
 
Waterless-wash products are certainly OK.

But, for rims, wheel wells and other really dirty areas, you'll hv no choice but to use the self-service outlet.



When your customer's car reaches you, can you be sure the self-service outlet is available for you to use at that moment?

Is that self-service outlet always occupied?

Once the car reaches you, I'm sure you need to start work asap and cant afford to waste time for your turn at the self-service.



Does your customer allow you to drive their car to the outlet, even though it's just round the corner??

If your customer knows you're using the self-service outlet, this might sound very UN-professional to them, and they might use this as a leverage to depress your pricing.
 
There's not a water spicket at the shop that you could use? were you could get a water reclamation mat to keep it from getting every where?
 
i don't get why you can't wash the car outside, around back etc?

I wouldn't depend on waterless products. Look into Optimum NoRinse though-there is so little mess to that and you would atleast have something to wash the rims with after shooting them with degreaser.
 
tssdetailing said:
i don't get why you can't wash the car outside, around back etc?

I wouldn't depend on waterless products. Look into Optimum NoRinse though-there is so little mess to that and you would atleast have something to wash the rims with after shooting them with degreaser.
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wow, around here if a shop gets caught washing a car "out back" they will be subject to a huge fine. like in the 10's of thousands. i do work for a body shop and the owner was scolded by the city for washing cars out back so to speak. he had to install berms for water containment and was only slapped in the hand, a $2500 fine. he has to have a separator for the water that goes down the drain and the contaminated water has to be pumped and shipped to a reclaim center. he is also being sued by a different city because a container he paid another company to ship old oil in leaked. the container was left to sit for a while after the transportation company went broke. since the city had to pay for cleaning up the left overs of the defunct company, they found his name in the paper work for the container and filed a law suit. i guess since cali is broke, fines are a great way to make money.
 
sacdetailing said:
My cousin is a mechanic (sometimes he does body work) invited to be a part of the shop he just got, him, his dad will do their work w/e and theire giving me space for one car space for detailing, but the problem is that i will have to use waterless wash methods or just use minimal water because they dont let that in the shops. next street (half a minute drive) there is self service car wash (no lol i will use my own stuff, just for the pressure washer water) is this idea possible? i dont need tons of money because am finishing high school (home school) and going to college it, will just be my hobby/work to pay for my gas/other stuff . Can you give me any tips or ideas please. (btw am not a noob to detailing, i just want to get my own space.) am getting insured also, and the shop rent is really cheap. and the wheather here is good because am from California.
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You need to stay in regular school as you grammer and spelling is terrible.
 
advs1 said:
wow, around here if a shop gets caught washing a car "out back" they will be subject to a huge fine. like in the 10's of thousands. i do work for a body shop and the owner was scolded by the city for washing cars out back so to speak. he had to install berms for water containment and was only slapped in the hand, a $2500 fine. he has to have a separator for the water that goes down the drain and the contaminated water has to be pumped and shipped to a reclaim center. he is also being sued by a different city because a container he paid another company to ship old oil in leaked. the container was left to sit for a while after the transportation company went broke. since the city had to pay for cleaning up the left overs of the defunct company, they found his name in the paper work for the container and filed a law suit. i guess since cali is broke, fines are a great way to make money.
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Can you tell me which city the body shop is in?

Also where can I find a reclaim center around Whittier (assume the body shop is around Whittier)?
 
Thanks all! Yeah, we get fined here big time. some day some day ill open a big shop where you can do what ever you want, wash cars, engines etc..
 
If I recall correctly, ScottWax uses Optimum No Rinse exclusively on his details. He uses more powerful cleaners on the wheels and tires, but he rinses them off with ONR (I think). So using a rinseless product exclusively (or almost exclusively) is certainly feasible. Hopefully ScottWax will chime in here and share his method. Search YouTube for ScottWax's videos on using ONR. Also check out ONR: The Definitive Thread.
 
I often encounter the same issues in certain areas of Orange County. In some areas I have to use a completely different approach and business model for my detailing. For this I have developed a cool system that I call the Innovative 12V Portable Rinseless Detail System.......I use a ONR premix with my system and a 12V power source, the product is atomized when applied.



Here are a shot of my unit, it fits very easily in the back of my Denali and it plugs right in to my 12V accessories plug in the rear cargo area. If need be I drop it and then roll it to the vehicle I am working on using that vehicles 12V power source.......



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Keep in mind that this in not a substitute for all washes, but for most this works great for detail prep. Like others have said if the lowers, wheel wells and rims on any particular vehicle is extremely trashed, there definitely is no substitute for a pressure washer or coin wash for the dirty prep.
 
sacdetailing said:
Thanks all! Yeah, we get fined here big time. some day some day ill open a big shop where you can do what ever you want, wash cars, engines etc..
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eF that. cali needs to fall off the usa
 
EliminatorXP said:
I often encounter the same issues in certain areas of Orange County. In some areas I have to use a completely different approach and business model for my detailing. For this I have developed a cool system that I call the Innovative 12V Portable Rinseless Detail System.......I use a ONR premix with my system and a 12V power source, the product is atomized when applied.



Here are a shot of my unit, it fits very easily in the back of my Denali and it plugs right in to my 12V accessories plug in the rear cargo area. If need be I drop it and then roll it to the vehicle I am working on using that vehicles 12V power source.......



DSC_1201-1-1.jpg




Keep in mind that this in not a substitute for all washes, but for most this works great for detail prep. Like others have said if the lowers, wheel wells and rims on any particular vehicle is extremely trashed, there definitely is no substitute for a pressure washer or coin wash for the dirty prep.
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haha that looks a lot like the mytee one CG sells for wayyyy too much money. only theirs has a battery. i made a few skids that went to SD because of water restrictions. only mine is made out of 1 1/2 square tubing and has a 15 gallon tank and 50 foot hose and reel, on demand trigger gun and filters. the ones i made also run off of 12v but because of the reel and hose they stay mounted in the detailers car/truck. i made one that fit in the trunk of a dodge charger.
 
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