Pats300zx
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Ultima Tire and Trim Guard
Need a product that wont do this when it rains!
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Accumulator
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Pats300zx- Ah, OK, thanks 
Yeah, if it works as well on large areas as it did on the little bits I've tried it on, well...it's great stuff. Sorta another spin on the "LSP-based approach" IMO, rather than a dressing.
Yeah, if it works as well on large areas as it did on the little bits I've tried it on, well...it's great stuff. Sorta another spin on the "LSP-based approach" IMO, rather than a dressing.
imported_gusbubba
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Accumulator said:gusbubba- Some might say that trying it on rubber was even *more* adventurous than trying it on plasticI've had very few instances where the LSP-based approach didn't work out, and in those cases staining wasn't a significant part of the problem (came right off with the Autoglym Bumper Care that I ended up using instead).
And yeah, I do generally precede it with something like KAIO, or sometimes (can you believe this one?!?) 1Z Paint Polish.
Thanks for the info.........
jfelbab
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Meg's Ultimate Quik Wax works great on plastic and vinyl trim. It leaves a nice dark sheen, doesn't run and lasts weeks. I've also had good results with Ultimate Protectant but not any better than UQW.
I had this problem on the Mini (lots of black arches) - you really need something waterproof, and at the time Adams SuperVRT wasn't out!
I've been using 1z Plastic Care (Kunstoff Intensiv Pfledge) - it's solvent based - shiney for the first day, then looks matt/dressed for weeks. I'm sure you'll have similar results with another solvent based dressing.
I've moved on to G-Techniq C4, which is expensive, but it lasts a good 9-12 months here in the UK - apply it once, and forget about it until after Winter...
I've been using 1z Plastic Care (Kunstoff Intensiv Pfledge) - it's solvent based - shiney for the first day, then looks matt/dressed for weeks. I'm sure you'll have similar results with another solvent based dressing.
I've moved on to G-Techniq C4, which is expensive, but it lasts a good 9-12 months here in the UK - apply it once, and forget about it until after Winter...
imported_gusbubba
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So, I took Accumulator's advice and tried the KAIO/845 treatment on my
plastic mirror housings and must say I'm happy with the results.
No heavy black streaks running down the side.
Judge for yourselves......
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Thanks for the tip, Accumulator.
plastic mirror housings and must say I'm happy with the results.
No heavy black streaks running down the side.
Judge for yourselves......
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Accumulator
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gusbubba- Glad it works as well for you as it does for me
Alexshimshimhae
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its hard to go wrong with accums advice
Accumulator
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Alexshimshimhae- Well, I generally only post BTDT-advice that's worked well for me and I try to include any relevant caveats. But "YMMV" always applies
From my experience in consistently rainy weather, those streaks that you mentioned, are NOT due to the trim detailer.
Those streaks are trapped grime that's flowing out from your door handle's innards.
Due to dirty rain water and maybe a lack of washing, dirt and grime accumulates inside the door handles, wing mirrors etc.
When it rains, these crap flow out and leave behind a dark streak going downwards.
You can try:
Spray full strength multi-purpose cleaner on your door handle. As you spray, you shd see lots of black filth flowing down.
Spray water, and continue spraying MPC, and rinse again. Use a toothbrush to brush the fine gaps.
Once dry, re-coat with LSP or do your normal detailing work.
Works great on my customers' car, especially white cars. When it rains the next time, no more vertical streaks.
Alternative to trim detailer.
On your door handle, I would clean it using MPC, and then apply either Zaino Z2pro or Klasse SG. A few layers would be great. Once cured, a layer of S100/P21s would make it look even better. I do this on my customers's cars and they love it.
A classy, new, semi-matt look that lasts.
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Those streaks are trapped grime that's flowing out from your door handle's innards.
Due to dirty rain water and maybe a lack of washing, dirt and grime accumulates inside the door handles, wing mirrors etc.
When it rains, these crap flow out and leave behind a dark streak going downwards.
You can try:
Spray full strength multi-purpose cleaner on your door handle. As you spray, you shd see lots of black filth flowing down.
Spray water, and continue spraying MPC, and rinse again. Use a toothbrush to brush the fine gaps.
Once dry, re-coat with LSP or do your normal detailing work.
Works great on my customers' car, especially white cars. When it rains the next time, no more vertical streaks.
Alternative to trim detailer.
On your door handle, I would clean it using MPC, and then apply either Zaino Z2pro or Klasse SG. A few layers would be great. Once cured, a layer of S100/P21s would make it look even better. I do this on my customers's cars and they love it.
A classy, new, semi-matt look that lasts.
Accumulator
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gigondaz said:
Yeah, KSG is my overall fave for this, though I recommend the 845 about as often as it's less of a boutique approach. I even use KSG on runningboards/etc. on my SUVs and it can be surprising how long it lasts (six layers seem to be the point of diminishing returns with regard to durability). I can only think of two, no three, times this approach hasn't worked (the rear window wiper on the MPV and the sideview mirror rubber and plastic foglight covers on the XJS).
My newly acquired beaters have very sun-bleached exterior black plastic, it'll be interesting to see what I have to do on those vehicles.
Oh, and that was a good point about cleaning such areas; didn't even occur to me that somebody might overlook that, but it could make all the difference.
Accumulator said:
In the past, I've used layers of Klasse SG on matt and semi-matt trims, and I agree with you completely. It gives a very nice, quite durable look to matt and semi-matt trim pieces. Looks new, without that fake shiny look.
Good suggestion - Coli 845.
I've never used it and just received my 1st bottle 2hours ago at my shop.
Will try it tommorow as a paint LSP, and also on the trims on Honda Civic (Nighthawk Black). Thanks!:bigups
Accumulator
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gigondaz said:
See what you think; some of us who are insanely particular about minor diffs sometimes think the 845 is a little "bright" for black paints but others really like it. I have it on a dark blue Audi and I think it looks fine on that.
FWIW, IMO the big trick with 845 is to shake shake shake it until it's almost as thin in consistency as KSG. There will probably be a plug of solidified product in the neck of the bottle; poke that down into the bulk of the wax and shake some more until it's all as thin as milk. Running hot water over the bottle can speed things along.
Not the same as KSG, but if you're only doing a few layers it's good. Yeah, it *does* layer IME if you allow sufficient time between applications to avoid the solvent-effect (or at least multiple applications don't need redone as quickly as a single application will).
Accumulator
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Accumulator said:
Update: The KAIO/LSp-based approach wasn't right for the plastic rocker panel trim on my '01 Crown Vic
Maybe a better attempt with the KAIO woulda made the diff, but as it was I resorted to a quick-fix with the AutoGlym Bumper Care.detailman1
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simix oxishine
Accumulator
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detailman1 & Legacy99- What do you guys like about those products?
Noting for the umpteenth time that I hardly *EVER* use such products, two reasons I like the Bumper Care are that it's a thick gel and it does a surprising amount of cleaning (even when I don't think that's really necessary it sometimes has a benefit). That's besides great durability, zero running in rain, and a pleasing (to me) look.
So what do those I-never-heard-of-'em products bring to the table? School me, please
Noting for the umpteenth time that I hardly *EVER* use such products, two reasons I like the Bumper Care are that it's a thick gel and it does a surprising amount of cleaning (even when I don't think that's really necessary it sometimes has a benefit). That's besides great durability, zero running in rain, and a pleasing (to me) look.
So what do those I-never-heard-of-'em products bring to the table? School me, please
Accumulator said:detailman1 & Legacy99- What do you guys like about those products?
Noting for the umpteenth time that I hardly *EVER* use such products, two reasons I like the Bumper Care are that it's a thick gel and it does a surprising amount of cleaning (even when I don't think that's really necessary it sometimes has a benefit). That's besides great durability, zero running in rain, and a pleasing (to me) look.
So what do those I-never-heard-of-'em products bring to the table? School me, please
Been on only a month, but should last 6 mos. Just a dark black satin finish.
YouTube - C4 Tacoma Wheel Arch
Accumulator
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Legacy99- Hey, that looks impressive, thanks for schooling me! Hmmm...that might be an OK approach for trim on the beaters :think: