Natty's Paste Wax vs. Griot's Carnauba Paste Wax

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So I just got my order from Autogeek and everything came in, no mistakes.



I ordered a few things from them to "try" & one of them was Natty's Paste Wax. I've used Griot's Carnauba Paste Wax and love it. As my LSP of choice, it's pretty darn good. Low and behold, when I opened up the plastic container for Natty's I had to double check because I thought I just opened up a Griot's container! Granted the Griot's carnauba wax is purple in color and Natty's is white, the smell and consistency of Natty's is dead on Griot's.



Anyone else make this observation?



I also ordered from Autogeek their orange pad and again, the feel and consistency is the same as Griot's orange pad. Again... just some observations.



What would be a great addition to this site would be a matrix of products that are very similar or almost equivalent OR the exact item, but rebranded. We all know some items are rebranded for each reseller, but I don't think we'd ever get a total honest answer if we were to ask them who made their particular wax, polish, etc. Just food for thought, folks...



Time to spend some time in the garage...



-Mike
 
Interesting about the orange pad, thanks for posting that. I'd never seen one *quite* like the Griot's pad but I knew he was having them made by *somebody*. Pretty mild "cut" to that pad, less than I would've expected given the stiffness of it.
 
Accumulator said:
Interesting about the orange pad, thanks for posting that. I'd never seen one *quite* like the Griot's pad but I knew he was having them made by *somebody*. Pretty mild "cut" to that pad, less than I would've expected given the stiffness of it.
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Yup... I compared them last night after work and the Griot's orange pad is almost dead on the orange pad from Autogeek. Both are very dense, very much like the memory foam and I'm in agreement with you that the Griot's one does not have that much bite to it. We'll see how the Autogeek pad does.



-Mike
 
Interesting.



Griots sent me a little bottle of some QD they have. I will have to check out "who" also sells a blue QD....
 
Off topic abit: CG Hard Core XXX Carnuba Wax smell exact the same as Griots and Nattys :eek:
 
klnyc said:
Off topic abit: CG Hard Core XXX Carnuba Wax smell exact the same as Griots and Nattys :eek:
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You can make a wax, pre-wax cleaner, polish etc. smell almost any way you want. I know the guy who makes Victoria Wax (he used to sell Zymol). I've seen his operation and know he can make his waxes etc. smell how he pleases (I once complained about the smell of his pre-wax cleaner and he said he'd change it for the next batch ;) )



So, bottom line, smell doesn't mean didley squat.
 
JBM said:
Interesting.



Griots sent me a little bottle of some QD they have. I will have to check out "who" also sells a blue QD....
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I haven't found anything that looks or smells like it. In feel and in action it's closest to Meguiar's Final Detail, the old one from the detailer line.





Tom
 
... When will we find an exact way to figure out all this similarity in products? Appearance isn't the same as actual chemical make up.... Griot's Orange pad + AG Orange pad most likely is similar because it comes from very very few manufacturers. Therefore same factory, jsut different seller
 
SilvaBimma said:
... When will we find an exact way to figure out all this similarity in products? Appearance isn't the same as actual chemical make up.... Griot's Orange pad + AG Orange pad most likely is similar because it comes from very very few manufacturers. Therefore same factory, jsut different seller
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Anyone out there with a spectrometer? :)
 
Yes, like Carbon Fiber or silicon computer boards, there are really only a few core manufacturers, yet a plethora of sellers in the market. So the products may be similar, or identical, but re-branded. Just good business for the most part.
 
Since this thread got revived anyhow...



Griot's claims to actually *manufacture* many of their detailing chemicals and some are truly unique IME.



WHile I'm *VERY* certain that they sold repackaged stuff from others back when they first went into business, I'm equally certain that that is *NOT* the case these days.





SilvaBimma said:
..... Griot's Orange pad + AG Orange pad most likely is similar because it comes from very very few manufacturers...
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Actually, I find Griot's orange pad to be unique among orange foam pads. While rather firm and porous, it finshes *very* well and cuts very gently. It's completely different from the other orange foam I'm used, and is a good mild polishing pad (but pretty lousy for serious correction).
 
Accumulator said:
Since this thread got revived anyhow...



Griot's claims to actually *manufacture* many of their detailing chemicals and some are truly unique IME.



WHile I'm *VERY* certain that they sold repackaged stuff from others back when they first went into business, I'm equally certain that that is *NOT* the case these days.



Actually, I find Griot's orange pad to be unique among orange foam pads. While rather firm and porous, it finshes *very* well and cuts very gently. It's completely different from the other orange foam I'm used, and is a good mild polishing pad (but pretty lousy for serious correction).
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He is correct, good observation Accumulator... the Griots orange pad is a cross between the white and the orange that we carry from Lake Country and Griots special orders their foam pads and they do not get them from LC.
 
I was actually going to post the same. Griot's claims to manufacture their own chemicals. However, everything's got a formula. Chances are I can license the formulation for X Y Z and build a plant that can make it. At that point I can claim to manufacture my own stuff, because... well I do. Manufacturing your own and coming up with your own thing is two different things. It's the difference between "designed by" and "made by"
 
Meghan@Autogeek said:
... the Griots orange pad is a cross between the white and the orange that we carry from Lake Country..
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Ah, that's interesting...thanks for putting a finer point on the subject.



That's a little more aggressive-sounding that I woulda expected, especially considering it's supposed to work with Griot's Machine Polish #3/#4. Note that it was their (only) pad for polishing *and waxing* for quite a while.



FWIW, I really like that pad for use with KAIO, no micromarring on medium-ish clear (e.g., Japanese-manufactured Mazda) that I can see, at least on metallic paint.
 
If I wanted to sell a glass cleaner and I worked with a chemical supplier to a custom formula for it such as different scent, unique bottle, maybe less alcohol, add some vinegar, more surfectants, and different tint), I could probably claim I make my own glass cleaner.
 
Bunky- Yeah, and IMO there's nothing wrong with that. Maybe I'd like something about *your* glass cleaner better than anybody else's. Even if it's just the smell or color or whatever...if somebody likes it and will pay for it, everybody wins.



People have posted about how Griot's glass cleaner is just IPA, or IPA/ammonia, or IPA/vinegar, or some other mix you can simply DIY, but none of the DIY mixes I've ever whipped up ever worked quite as well for me. Good enough for the house windows perhaps, but still not as well as the Griot's. Maybe I just got something wrong in the mix every time, but eh...I'll just keep buying what I like.
 
Bunky said:
If I wanted to sell a glass cleaner and I worked with a chemical supplier to a custom formula for it such as different scent, unique bottle, maybe less alcohol, add some vinegar, more surfectants, and different tint), I could probably claim I make my own glass cleaner.
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Yeah there wouldn't be anything wrong with that. What I am more concerned with is people potentially claiming that they make a super for example, surfactant, when in fact only 5 companies actually make surfactant x and everyone else just uses it in their ingredient list.
 
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