N00b Question: Glaze Under NXT Bonding Problems?

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Hey all, new to the site but so far I've found it to be a font of information! Thought I'd finally post something, here's the situation:

Finally getting to work on the beater Integra this weekend, it is a 90 Monterey Blue, which is actually more of a gunmetal/dark grey/dark silver combo with a VERY VERY LIGHT blue tint. At this point, I have cleaned, clayed, and polished it. I am planning to use NXT, maybe even two or three layers added throughout the rest of the week, with a final topper of Meg's #26.

My question is, should I use a glaze in between the polishing and the sealing/protecting stage of the detailing regime? I have Meg's #7 "Show Car Glaze" ... Should I layer it between the #9 "Swirl Free Polish" and the NXT/#26 combo?

I have tried searching, and haven't read anything definitive yet. From what I understand, the #7, or any other glaze for that matter, might create problems for the NXT and other types of sealants that are not wax, in that the oils in the #7 will interfere with the bonding process of the NXT... So should I skip the glaze process entirely, and go straight from polishing to sealing with NXT?

Here's a quick-and-dirty picture of the car in question, please don't mind the primered hood and various bodywork irregularities, those will be worked on in time (it IS my beater car, let's just say I picked up the car for less than the price of the wheels! LOL!):
 
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When I get the time I'm going to use a glaze under a sealant. I'm going with Vanilla Moose under Ex on a dark green metallic. When I do my wife's silver I'm going Vanilla Moose then UPP. I have no experience with NXT.
 
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Hey,

You will have no trouble using NXT Tech Wax over a pure polish like Meg's #3, #5, #7 or #81. Meguiar's products are designed to work together as a system.


Tim
 
I have used Meg's #7 "Show Car Glaze" and then NXT and NXT did not bond :(
After a wash or 2 I applied NXT again and it bonded just fine.

R.
 
I have used Meg's #3 machine Glaze and then applied NXT with no problems!
NXT is one of those products that works well with a lot of things ... From what I have read a meguiars.com, they designed the product that way.
 
KCLexGS said:
I have used Meg's #7 "Show Car Glaze" and then NXT and NXT did not bond :(
After a wash or 2 I applied NXT again and it bonded just fine.

R.
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How did you tell that the product did not bond?


Tim
 
Meg's #7 was originally formulated for single stage paints. This is not to say that it will not work on BC/CC, it will work fine. I would suggest using Meq's #81 Hand Polish to acheive the same results. It is my understanding that #81 was designed to be used with BC/CC Paints and has no issues that i am aware of with NXT.
 
I dont think you need to glaze..a good polish should brighten and clean the paint . then polymer. i would recomend claying before polishing though .. it really makes a difference..
 
Wow! Thanks for all the responses!!! Yes, the car has been clayed and polished, but I wanted to see if adding #7 into the regimen would help deepen the paint a little, especially along the vertical body panels.

KCLexGS: I'm curious, how did you realize the NXT wasn't bonding, or didn't bond after #7? I've also read this on a couple of older posts, which is why I posted this thread... Apparently, it has something to do with the "trade secret oils" in #7, but I'm not really sure why, and how the #7 affects the NXT specifically...

Would anybody care to add their two cents???
 
If you haven't used NXT before, you might want to try it on a panel before using anything else to darken the paint. NXT darkens the paint pretty well by itself. This is a good and bad thing depending on your paint color!
 
Well, all beading was gone. Every (most) sealants/waxes bead somewhat and when I used #7 then NXT it bead during the first rainy day and after that it did not bead any more. In addition, I read somewhere on the Mcg web site that # 7 is a temporary fix for like a show car event that you may want to make it shiny for a day until you wash it off. When I reapplied NXT again, it kept beading for few weeks. It does make the color darker, I used it on a black jeep and it looked very nice.

R.
 
Hey,

Meguiar's #3, #5, #7 and #81 are all pure polishes. Meguiar's #7 Show Car Glaze was developed for Single Stage Paints where as the 80 Series of products (Body Shop series) was designed with BC/CC in mind. However, #81 Hand Polish and #7 are very similar except that #81 is easier to remove. All of Meguiar's products are designed as system, in that they will work together. You will have no more problem topping Meguiar's #7 than you would #81 with another Meguiar's sealant or wax.

Meguiar's pure polishes are designed to help fill the micro-fissures on the paints surface. This does not necessary equate to darkening of the paint but rather, to add depth.

As for the water beading, this is a measure of high surface tension and not durability. NXT was designed to sheet water.


Tim
 
I have used NXT after a polish and a glaze with no trouble. I did find it did laeve a bit of oily rsidue but i went over after with some megs detail spray it removed it pretty well and just to top off i used the NXT booster wax and it came out awesome... for those who havn't tried the NXT booster Try it I think it leaves a better finish than the NXT alone.
 
Do I have a step wrong ? I was waiting on my pads for my PC, and have literally Dozens of waxes & polish etc. I have washed & clayed the SUV - a 2004 BLACK Yukon. I was going to go in this order.
1. Prep
2. 3M SMR
3. Meguiar's #7 Glaze
4.NXT
5.Meguiar's Carnuba Wax

If i missed a step or I am incorrect in the order please let me know.
Thanks
 
Webcams said:
Do I have a step wrong ? I was waiting on my pads for my PC, and have literally Dozens of waxes & polish etc. I have washed & clayed the SUV - a 2004 BLACK Yukon. I was going to go in this order.
1. Prep
2. 3M SMR
3. Meguiar's #7 Glaze
4.NXT
5.Meguiar's Carnuba Wax

If i missed a step or I am incorrect in the order please let me know.
Thanks
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Just get rid of 4 or 5. Both aren't necessary, and don't really add anything to compliment each other. Either do NXT wax or Megs Carnauba Wax (red bottle? EEEK!). Other than that, nice setup! BTW, what is #1 Prep? Clay bar?

jeff.
 
Hey,

I would also choose either the NXT or the #16 (Blue Can Professional Series-----the red bottle is the the consumer cleaner wax). The results will be amazing!!

Tim
 
NXT Over #7

i would use the machine glaz first and then NXT i did and it worked great #7 is to oily best to use a carnubar wax over #7
 
Hey,

Meguiar's #3 Machine Glaze is designed to be applied by machine (ie. rotary buffer). Although it can be applied by hand, #5, #7 or #81 are better alternatives.

Tim
 
I have been to a Meguiar's detail day recently all the cars were buffed out with #83, #80 and NXT....no problems, no worries. AS 2hotford stated, the Meguiar's products are designed to work as a system.
 
I normally use 7 and NXT. I used 81 with NXT this weekend and was not to impressed. #7 seems to leave paint a little oily. Then topped with NXT and the surface is super slick. #81 didn't offer much lubrication to the paint. I explain the #7 step to customers as applying lotion to skin. To moisturize. I like the oily feel after applying the glaze. This is on a bc/cc also.
 
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