My Klasse SG technique...

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breakneckvtec

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There is alot of methods regarding the removal of this product, of course the app is the same.



I actually got this idea from another member on here, but I forget who it is, or maybe it was a partial idea I made my own, dont recall. Anyway, here it is:



What you do to prep for the SG is up to you, I always lay down AIO first. I apply sparingly to the entire car, although if you get a bit thick its no big deal with my method. Once its applied to the whole car, go take a nap, or a break of some kind.



I usually let it sit for an hour, or more. You can even do it in direct sunlight if you wish, I have in the middle of summer and it caused no problems I could tell.



Get your car wash soap and wash the car, it will feel like its gliding, or hovering over the paint, its fine, you dont have to scrub, and if you miss a spot you will clearly see it when you dry the car and it will be removed then.



Simple. Some complain about having to re-wash the car, but hey, to me its alot easier than buffing it off.
 
I dont believe that the Klasse has any time to adhere to the paint that way and dont trust that method. It requires some time to cure/bond.
 
Quote: Klasse AIO - I usually let it sit for an hour, or more.



~One man’s opinion / observations ~



I have no problem with the method you advocate (but I will tell you this the last time I suggested leaving AIO for an hour I received a lot of flak, but then they are all only one man’s opinion / observations) In fact a representative from Klasse has stated “Just to add another log to the fire, here is a quote from CMA's recent interview with Bob Faragasso, president of Klasse USA:



Q. Should you wait between applying multiple coats of HGSG?



A. The first coat of HGSG can be applied immediately over a base coat of All-In-One. After that, it's best to wait 8 to 12 hours between coats of HGSG. We have customers with show cars (not daily drivers) that will wipe on a coat of HGSG one day, buff it off the next day and immediately apply another coat. They'll do this every day for a month, literally putting on 30 coats of HGSG over a 30-day period. This sounds crazy but I've seen some of these cars and they're absolutely breathtaking! “







~ Hope this helps ~



Experience unshared; is knowledge wasted…/

justadumbarchitect * so i question everything*
 
There has been some discussions also about to wash or not to wash the car before the sealant has cured....



One thing is for sure, the WOWO method brought new life to SG, and those who use it like it, and nobody found yet a difference in durability.



To each his own (but don't get me started with CMAs opinions/takes on products :down )
 
Q. Should you wait between applying multiple coats of HGSG?



A. The first coat of HGSG can be applied immediately over a base coat of All-In-One. After that, it's best to wait 8 to 12 hours between coats of HGSG. We have customers with show cars (not daily drivers) that will wipe on a coat of HGSG one day, buff it off the next day and immediately apply another coat. They'll do this every day for a month, literally putting on 30 coats of HGSG over a 30-day period. This sounds crazy but I've seen some of these cars and they're absolutely breathtaking! “
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And then comes a guy who just waxed his car last night with a layer of NXT.... And it looks better than those 30 *cough* 2 or 3 usefull *cough* layers of SG :shocked



:D ;)
 
breakneckvtec said:
I dont believe that the Klasse has any time to adhere to the paint that way and dont trust that method. It requires some time to cure/bond.
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Don't have misgivings about a method you have NOT yet tried. WOO DOES in fact work. The weather is starting to warm up here and my 3 coats of SG (applied in August) using WOO have survived the brutal Toronto winter. My SG has not behaved any differently than with the previous method.



If you don't want to use woo, then that's fine, but don't bash it when you obviously have no idea how it REALLY does work.



JMHO,



Bill.



PS: When wiping off the klasse you are not wiping everything off, just the residue. It's what's left that cures and bonds, not the residue you wipe off. Hence I don't understand where that particular concern comes from.
 
If you dont allow the SG to time to bond to the paint, it essentially all becomes residue and I feel will be wiped off. The paint needs time to "accept" the product. If it works for you, cheers, but I dont see how, and I didnt bash it, just said I didnt believe in it. Thanks.
 
Yes, I know it's only my word . . . but:



Been there, done that. WOO works as well as Wait One Hour. No question there. Quick, simple, easy. What more could you ask for?
 
breakneckvtec said:
If you dont allow the SG to time to bond to the paint, it essentially all becomes residue and I feel will be wiped off. The paint needs time to "accept" the product. If it works for you, cheers, but I dont see how, and I didnt bash it, just said I didnt believe in it. Thanks.
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The paint needs about 1 minute to accept the product. After that it'll be a PITA to remove, better wait and pray ;) SG dries very fast, but takes a while to cure, that's why it's not advised to wash it away.



Try the WOWO, I did it first on my refrigerator (the wife thanked ;) )
 
On my way to the 5th layer last year, I was doing the classic wait an hour method except for one, the 3rd layer. That time I was caught by the rain after I applied a coat of SG. The next day I just washed the car. I didn't have to buff off anything and it came out grand. Breakneckvtec may have something here. Right now, I'm doing WOWO.
 
~One man’s opinion / observations ~



Rightlane this is all I got (from CMA I think)



I’ve been collecting various ‘methods’ of application/removal of Klasse and other products, as I’m always anxious to improve my technique. The thing that amazes me is after 30+ years of using Klasse there are still different (all valid as far as I’ve tried thus far) methods of application for this product and how each instigator of a ‘method’ becomes entrenched in the belief that their method is the Holy Grail. This is not said to start controversy (I’m too old for that now, after all it’s only a shine on a car, there are far more important things in life worthy of controversy)



Qoute: Just to add another log to the fire, here is a quote from CMA's recent interview with Bob Faragasso, president of Klasse USA:



Q. Should you wait between applying multiple coats of HGSG?



A. The first coat of HGSG can be applied immediately over a base coat of All-In-One. After that, it's best to wait 8 to 12 hours between coats of HGSG. We have customers with show cars (not daily drivers) that will wipe on a coat of HGSG one day, buff it off the next day and immediately apply another coat. They'll do this every day for a month, literally putting on 30 coats of HGSG over a 30-day period. This sounds crazy but I've seen some of these cars and they're absolutely breathtaking!



Jeff Laughhunn



Here is another Quote from CMA the interview with Bob Faragasso, president of Klasse USA:





"Q. Any tips for applying High Gloss Sealant Glaze?



A. Yes. HGSG does apply a little differently than All In One. Apply HGSG using damp Microfiber or Microfinger Pad but apply less product (about the size of a dime) and wipe-on in broad, overlapping strokes. You can use a light pressure to apply HGSG because you are not "polishing"; you're just applying a protectant. The longer HGSG stays on the surface, the easier it is to buff off. Apply to the entire vehicle before buffing. I will often apply HGSG in the afternoon, let it sit overnight and buff it off the next day. It will buff off like a breeze. Again, I buff by hand using a Microfiber Buffing Cloth.



Occasionally, customers will complain that HGSG is difficult to buff. In almost every instance, I can trace the problem to the customer using too much product, applying with a dry, not damp, applicator and/or not waiting long enough before buffing. If HGSG resists easy buffing after it is dry, simply mist the surface with any quick-detail spray and wipe with a dry Microfiber Cloth. End Quote





~ Hope this helps ~



Experience unshared; is knowledge wasted…/

justadumbarchitect * so i question everything*
 
After using both methods to remove Klasse I find the WOWO method to be the easiest. No matter how little product I applied it was somewhat difficult to remove. This was made somewhat easier by the two MF method (one wet/one dry) for removal.



I have been using Klasse SG solely on my 4Runner with no topper. I have noticed no difference in the appearance or durability by not using the WOWO method.
 
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