My Impressions of ClearKote after a full day of testing.

BradE

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Today I tested three products from ClearKote on a friends black Acura RL sedan. The products tested were Moose Wax, Vanilla Moose and QuickShine. I hope this will finally settle some of the ongoing debates regarding these products, and give members some valuable information. :)



First up, the Vanilla Moose. The first thing I noticed about this product is its very thin consistency. It’s very thin for a glaze. It has a somewhat nice smell, and it’s certainly not anything offensive. To apply I used a standard yellow foam applicator. I put a nice line of product across the pad and began to work it into the surface. Once you start working the product on the surface it got an almost tacky feeling and it became somewhat harder to spread. I continued to work the product until I was satisfied it was totally worked into the surface. I then buffed off the residue with a microfiber towel. The product removed easily and left no streaking or residue on the surface. However, I was disappointed in the depth. The product gives good reflections, but didn’t add a ton of depth to the surface of the black test car. It did and adequate job of filling swirls and surface imperfections, all but the deepest were filled. The product does not really leave a slick surface IMO, but more of a smooth surface. Overall, the product is OK. I was disappointed in the lack of depth for a glaze, I was expecting more and other available glazes certainly give more depth. I would say this product is pretty average for a glaze, nothing exceptional but not horrible either. I would give Vanilla moose the following



Pros: Nice Smell, Buffs off easily and evenly, leaves no streaks or residue, nice angle reflections

Cons: Can be somewhat hard to spread during application, thin consistency, and lack of depth for a glaze.



Next on the docket is Moose Wax. Moose Wax is a thick, liquid, purple/pinkish color cleaner wax. It does not have much of an odor; you can detect a slight solvent smell if you pay close attention but it won’t jump out at you. Again, I applied this product using a yellow foam applicator pad. It applied fairly easily and smoothly and I didn’t notice any real application problems. After working the product into the surface I noticed some small particles in the wax residue on the applicator. I’m not sure if it was abrasive, or just dried product, but something was certainly there. I removed the product with a clean, dry, Microfiber cloth and it removed with minimal effort. I didn’t notice any streaking or smearing and it buffed off evenly. However, and this is a big down side, it totally removed the glaze. How could I tell? Quite easily actually. The glaze did add a small bit of depth to the surface, after Moose Wax was applied that depth was clearly gone. Moose Wax seems pretty strong in the cleaner department in my opinion. After use of the Moose wax the surface didn’t have much depth at all. The reflection was nice, but the deep dark shimmering pool was just not there. In fact, the surface looked rather sterile. After feeling the surface I didn’t notice a slick feeling, but rather a smooth buttery feeling. As a baseline I also applied some Mothers Cleaner Wax next to the ClearKote. The application and removal was virtually the same, but the Mothers Cleaner Wax was superior to ClearKote in terms of depth. Overall for a cleaner wax I would rate Moose Wax as average too slightly below average. It certainly did not outperform the Mothers product; in fact I preferred the Mothers product because the depth was far superior. Here’s the sum up.



Pros: Easy application and removal, no streaking or smearing, nice reflections

Cons: Somewhat strong for a cleaner wax, adds very little depth, left rather sterile surface.



Finally, the QuickShine. The product is a milky liquid that ClearKote claims contains no Teflon, waxes or silicone. From the smell and feel of the product it seems that statement is correct, but I could be wrong. The smell of the product is quite light and pleasing to the nose. I sprayed a light mist over the trunk panel and wiped with a clean, dry, microfiber towel. When wiping the QuickShine off I noticed it seems to lubricate the surface rather well, and I noticed no un-necessary surface friction. It wiped off streak free, and didn’t require much wiping to remove. The surface looked very bright, clean, and did have that “just detailed� look. After running my hands across the surface the slickness was rather good. The surface was quite reflective. I also tried the product on a panel with very light dust and it removed it quite well and didn’t leave any noticeable marring on black. Overall, this was my favorite of the ClearKote products. It worked rather well, and left a very nice looking slick surface.



Pros: Easy removal, no streaking or smearing, leaves a nice “just detailed� look, slickness is very good.

Cons: Nothing really comes to mind.



To sum up my testing, overall I was not impressed with the Vanilla Moose or Moose Wax. Their performance was only average at best in my opinion. The one bright spot was the QuickShine; this was my favorite of the products tested. It seems to work quite well, and if it contains no silicones or waxes then it’s compatible with many product systems.



My $.02





:wavey
 
Excellent, detailed review. Thanks, SRL. :bow



I almost forgot to ask, how did you feel about the Moose Wax separation problem that other people have mentioned. Did you feel that it was a problem?
 
Agreed - excellent review. I appreciate the detail and the pro's and con's info. I can't wait to get home to try it for myself...reserving judgement until I can get my hands on it.
 
The Moose Wax was seperated before I started the testing, I shook it well and it didn't seem to have any adverse effects on application or removal. Beyond that, I really can't say if it's a major problem or not. :)
 
Thanks SRL, Great Breakdown.

I Have Always Wondered How You Could Put A Cleaner Wax On Top Of A Glaze And Not Remove The Glaze.

:xyxthumbs
 
ShowroomLincoln said:
However, and this is a big down side, it totally removed the glaze. How could I tell? Quite easily actually. The glaze did add a small bit of depth to the surface, after Moose Wax was applied that depth was clearly gone. Moose Wax seems pretty strong in the cleaner department in my opinion.



I had a feeling this was going to be the case as information on their website states that MW will remove oxidation, if it does it certainly removes any fillers and oils left by the glaze as well.

It seems strange that they still recommend to use it after VM :nixweiss .



Great review! Keep us posted on durability.
 
Thanks. This was one review that I really understood and was a joy to read. This kind of goes against the grain of a few of the other Clearkote reviews. Please keep up the good work.
 
ShowroomLincoln-just a few tips that may help. You don't have to work Vanilla Moose in for a real long time, so that may help with the 'grabbiness'. I am puzzled by the lack of slickness, because to me, VM is slicker than S100 SEC. Maybe just a difference of opinion on the definition of slick, perhaps.



I also asked Everett about topping VM with Moose Wax because of the cleaning properties and he still recommended using MW on top of VM, then using Quikshine to finish it off, which does add some depth, IMO.



I don't really use VM as a filler type glaze, if I have swirls to deal with, I remove them via a swirl remover first, so I hadn't really been able to tell if MW removes any of the filling properties of VM. Seems like your testing has answered that.



To me, Clearkote products give a wet and reflective finish. I will agree it isn't as deep as a carnuba is, so that is why I usually top with S100.



You may want to try VM with a carnuba topper and see what your impressions are.
 
Wow Showroom Lincoln. I though just the opposite about VM in terms of slickness and depth. My hood was really deep and slick as all. Maybe it helped me that I polished the hood before the vm instead of using vm as a polish when it is only a glaze and needs some polishing to really work IMO.



I think i know what you are talking about though. Sometimes you wonder why reflections dont pop off the surface? I hae the same problem. I think it has to do with the product selection and the process of polishing you choose. ie. time, and pressure.



So my suggestion is try adding a couple of steps in polish or compound then use the vanila moose line. Should notice some depth especially on mettalics.





Ryan
 
Ryan,



I was not using VW as a polish, I was using it as a glaze. The feel didn't impress me, and depth was minimal compared to the numerous other glazes I have tested. I wanted to test the products on an unpolished surface to get a feel of what they actually do, not work they just cover.



I could have made the surface look great with polishing first, but that was not the point of the testing. I wanted to get a feel for the products and their abilities. :up
 
cool, more info about CK :). I really REALLY would like a pair of autopian veterans to do a blind test like I mentioned before with CK vs. a similar tried and true glaze/polish and wax.
 
bjwebster said:
Thanks SRL, Great Breakdown.

I Have Always Wondered How You Could Put A Cleaner Wax On Top Of A Glaze And Not Remove The Glaze.

:xyxthumbs



I agree!! I still do not understand Clearkote explanation of using vm before mw(a CLEANER wax).



Thanks ShowroomLincoln, I now have to think about getting VM (I need dept on dark cars) and prefer a wax that can be layered to a cleaner wax.
 
Interesting review SRL. :)



When VM first came out I was also puzzled about the application of MW over top of this and how this idea was practical. :confused: It's an issue that's been addressed very little really, and I'm not sure anyone has ever mentioned if they've been able to tell if any VM glaze remains beneath the MW. That's not the same thing as saying the surface has not been improved by the VM application first however.... :nixweiss
 
I've complained a few times before of problems using vanilla moose, where it left quite a bit of hazing that could not be buffed out. I tried going over them using a lot less pressure (wipe on, wipe off), and that just temporarily covered up the haze that i induced. I've tried this stuff on 3 different black cars, and I get hazing every single time, no matter how little pressure i use.



Today i took my black lexus is300 down to Carguy/Greg, and he also took a shot at using VM, using a PC with white pad to apply on my car. And it's not just me! Hazing over where VM was used. 3M SMR to the rescue. I think I've had it with VM. =/



It's weird that no one else has this experience.. Maybe I got a bad bottle?
 
I used Vm and MW on my dark green Kia Vm worked fine MW did not .MW left a haze that I could see in bright sunlight I used Clearkotes QD and that did remove all the hazing I guess the QD has to be used. After 3 weeks I put on a coat of S100 wow that made a big difference. Yesterday I put a coat of MW on my wifes teal van it worked super on the lighter color . I applied with a damp towel let dry and wiped off
 
Maybe I got a bad bottle? [/B]




Autopians sometimes suggest bad bottles when somebody doesn't like one of their favorite products. I've been dumb enough to buy more of something i didn't like because i actually thought i had a bad bottle. If you dont like VM, please save your money and dont buy more of it.
 
Brian,



I too am wondering why they recommend VW under Moose Wax. In my testing Moose Wax clearly removed all the glaze, it was very obvious. From my testing Moose Wax is rather strong in the cleaner department. I don't get it either. :nixweiss





lawrencea and others,



As for Moose Wax hazing on black, your not alone!!! My test car was black and it left the surface very sterile looking. To me, it reminded me of an area just polished, then you strip the fillers with alcohol. It's was that real flat, almost silvery looking black.
 
Hey SRL,



Do you have pictures showing the results?



Thanks for doing the review! You may have just saved me a lot of money!!:up



Tim
 
Hey Tim,



Nope, no pics. :( It was a friends car and I didn't have time to run home and get the camera. :(



I tried to be as descriptive as I could. If you, or anyone else for that matter, have any specific questions please feel free to ask. :)
 
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