My free Acrylic Werks sample and results

Oh geez.....I sure hope I don't come across like a jerk here but I have been chomping at the keys here really wanting to post a reply but again I mean no offense to Mark in any way shape or form because he is a great guy with alot of guts to hang in this long.



The paint, while looking real bad, is just chalky and I am sure that many here have had cars like this that will return a nice shine. The AW did a nice job but AIO or similar product would also do the same thing.



As for the "6 detailers" and them turning it down, well I believe that might be true but then again most detailers in town think a "full detail" is a hand wash and vacuum.



All in all the main point is that the guy who owns the car can get the same results on the rest of the car and in the end is happy.



Anthony
 
Mlebarron in 7 years of doing this I really can't remember someone willing to drive around for the next 9-12 months with that shiney spot on their car. There is a method to this madness. I will post 4 more photos of recent demo's. Guys these results are only the beginning. As this customer re-applies the polish later, it becomes easier and nicer each time.

Anthony, he did visit 6 detailers and no one wanted to do this. He told me he had resigned himself to just getting a paint job later. Again, the question being; What would be your favorite products and the necessary process to achieve similar results. If it takes more than 2 steps with different products you are probably creeping near $30.00 anyway. He did try some compound initially on the front hood, but it was still stuck in the pores in a circular pattern. I'm sure it was a basic over the counter compound. Don't be so quick to decide that you would not put this on your cars, Believe it our not I've got some customers out there who trust this product and its results on their 75K to 200K auto's, and they've been using the product for 4-7 years. I don't think I would ever question their commitment or their concept of a beautiful car. Remember, these folks are not just seeing wax products for the first time. They've been around and seen a lot of products, and almost everyone you talk to has that garage cabinet or milk crate in the trunk loaded with products that were suppose to change the world. In the end a live demonstration either works or it doesn't. Nice night to all.



Mark G.
 
I am not denying he went to 6 detailers I was just mentioning that the majority of detailers in town, at least the ones I have visited in the last 11 years, seen many come and more go, really have no clue what they are doing.



Also any attempt of using a "compound" by hand is just asking for trouble. Again I don't mean to come across as nitpicking because as I said as long as the guy is happy and can get AW to work like that on the rest of the car then it will look very nice:)



Also just to wash this guys car he would already be in it for $40.00 :)



Anthony
 
To All,



I will post some additional photos as soon as they are developed.

I will get some extremely faded before and after photos on headlights. I will also get photos of the plastic windows from a Jeep. Restoring these items are usually a major homerun for the owners. Remember, if this polish can do wonders on an old car, imagine the condition it will keep a new car in. Look forward to your comments.



Mark G.
 
"Remember, if this polish can do wonders on an old car, imagine the condition it will keep a new car in. Look forward to your comments."



If I had a new car I would prefer to use a non-cleaner wax or sealant free of abrasives and high solvents. If your product is strong enough to restore a badly faded/oxidized paint condition imagine how much good paint it would remove if used on a regular basis on a new car.
 
Mark, I gotta give you some props for your patience and professional conduct. Granted, you’ve dodged and haven’t directly addressed many of the questions here, but nonetheless I admire the way you’ve conducted yourself.



Looks like a good product to grab someone's attention and I'm sure it has its place in someone's detailing arsenal......but that’s not what I’m all about….and I like to think that that’s not what Autopia’s about either. For me, it's all about doing a proper job from start to finish .....i.e. from chalky and swirled to SHOWROOM CONDITION in SEVERAL HOURS or even days.......not from chalky to 'acceptable' in 20 mins. Your pics show a good transformation, but I am in no way impressed.



To answer your earlier question, “FROM YOUR PERSONAL FAVORITES, WHAT WOULD YOU USE TO SHOW THIS CUSTOMER HOW YOU WILL RESTORE HIS FADED WIPER ARM, HIS PLASTIC FADED MOLDING, HIS MESSED UP RUBBER SEALS, THE FADED AREA AT THE BASE OF THE REAR WINDOW, REMOVE AND POLISH THE RIM WHICH HAD CAKED ON BRAKE DUST AND LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST HIS REAR DECK SPOILER THAT IS FADED AND HAS A YEARS WORTH OF TREE SAP? UTILIZING YOUR FAVORITES, COULD THIS DEMO BE DONE IN UNDER 25 MINUTES AND STILL COST THE CUSTOMER LESS THAN $30.00 TOTAL FOR ALL THE PRODUCTS NEEDED?�



My answer is no, it can’t be done in less than 25 mins and cost less than $30….at least not the way I would like to do it. For the average consumer, that kind of snow job is acceptable, but like I said earlier (and not to sound like a pompous arse) I don’t think that’s what Autopia’s about either. I’m sure AW might work for this situation for the average non-enthusiast, but I consider this approach only appropriate to the kind of person that would let his or her car get that way in the first place.



Also, if your 75-200K wielding clients are happy with the kind of shine shown in this thread, then more power to them. I’ve seen many people driving vintage vettes with custom paint jobs, Maseratis, (i.e. the 75-200K crowd) who claim to be anal about their paint finishes and have a cabinet full of detailing products and often wonder if they are BLIND when they show me their cars. I cringe when I see some of the stuff they do to their beautiful cars. All I have to do is show them my wife's humble black e46 and the next thing they want to know is where they can buy that 3M Finesse-It 'something or another' I mentioned to them as well as P-twenty what? wax I mentioned to them.
 
andriver said:
Mark nice transformation. I am not here to criticize your product. That said, I think you are trying to impress the wrong croud. Your market is a different segment of the population. Autopians are a breed apart from the general population.



This is basically how I feel as well. I think it's great that you are doing demos, and I don't doubt that guy was impressed. I mean, how could he not be?



That said, you say he tried some other stuff on the hood and that didn't work for him. But, look at this guy's car! It seems pretty clear that he's no detailing maniac or anything. While Acrylic-Werks may do a great job, many things could have helped that paint. It had no visible shine at all, so any shine is an improvement.



But, can your product improve the shine on a well-cared-for car? Would my car look better than it does now? For most of us, this is what we are interested in. Not how it performs on a neglected beater. Which is why it was very generous of you to send out samples. I look forward to reading 40+ more Autopian reviews of your product. But I don't really need to read 40+ more replies of "this dude in a parking lot liked it after I restored his crap-mobile". Don't take it the wrong way. I think we all believe you when you say you impress people in parking lots. It's just that this is not what some of us are interested in. We are interested in how it performs on Autopian cars, or how it performs compared to other, similar products.



I personally did not sign up for a sample because I figured the odds of my buying it were low. I don't really have a need for another all-in-one product, and I don't have any cars that are heavily oxidized, and I don't mind using different products on different parts of the car. So I figured I'd leave one more slot for someone who is actually interested. But I am interested in reading the reviews. Just please let's not have each subsequent review turn into another copy of the original Acrylic-Werks thread.
 
Couldn't we suggest it as a new product review under Autopia reviews? I agree with Aurora that there is no point in turning every review into a thread like this.
 
Gee, AWMark...To me, all these pics sure look like:
 

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Guys, I can't remember if I mentioned it, but just before I left San Diego the owner of American Eagle Motorcycle asked if I could take the time and detail his Bently Continental T before I moved to San Antonio. I spent the day, about 7 hours on just the exterior. He went to the Aviara Country Club that evening and recieved several compliments on the car. He called the next day and asked me to do his 2002 Porsche, 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited and his Ferrari Mondial. I did one each day and did not leave until I felt they were perfect. Each one took 7+ hours to do. I gave him a fair discount at $185.00 each. The discount was given because he let a little guy like me compete on the same level as much larger companies, who were very eager to get his business. His motorcycles start at $27,000.00 (California Cruiser) up to $80,000.00 (Custom Chopper). The bikes are really hot and if you care to take a peek: www.AmericanEagleMotorcycle.com

Guys I really do care about all cars. I spend most of the day stressing to new car owners that being proactive and not reactive will have tremendous long term results. The Fiero owner just picked that car up, for $900.00. It only needed a new exhaust manifold and a tune-up. It sounded great when he pulled up.

Hey to change the subject, did anyone else happen to hear what the boys at Pontiac did with the last six Fiero GT's on the line. Seems someone was looking around and found six unused Buick Grand National GNX engines. If my memory serves me correct, Road and Track was invited to some track in Colorado to see exactly what Pontiac had created here. Well, they claimed Pontiac had a Fiero GT capable of busting 60mph in a tick over 3 seconds, they did not get a quarter mile time but did see 189mph top end. Can you imagine if these had been unleashed on the general public! I'm checking out, and I wish a nice night to all.



Mark G.
 
Uh oh...I hate to reply to a thread like this one is...but here it goes...



Just give me a bottle of Turtle Wax...yeah, the regular stuff.



My family has an '86 Jimmy that hasn't really had much paint care...in fact, it took on 3 deer, and had lots of rust before that...



the paint is also very chalky...



I was working on half the hood with Meguiars Scratch X [w/ a PC] and then put a coat of their Gold Class liquid [hand application] on after that. I worked the part closest to the edge of the hood the most.



My dad then talked to me and said that he has used TW all his life and that I shouldn't be so low as to not try it.



so I did...on the entire side of the vehicle with regular turtle wax. A lot of paint came off, and some shine started to show through...the process was quicker than the scratch x...probably



I think there are a lot of "advanced silicon polymers" in TW which did a lot of filling. It sure does shine, though. The product cleaned and shined.



I don't think those results will last especailly long.



I'd rate the area I worked with the PC and Scratch X longest the best looking area. The next would be the TW, which was quick to use and produced "good" results. I think it also could take little effort, because places that I just went over with quick with the PC turned out about the same as the ones that I worked long with. Finally, the part which I only worked quickly with scratch x...while still much better than the rest, still is somewhat foggy and oxidized.



I'd say that the long-worked scratch x section will last longest, but the TW part was quickest, most shine. That would only get better with future applications also.



the long worked scratch x section also had the most depth and reflection....the shine of the TW section didn't really leave much to be desired...reflections were ok there too.



My point is that I got good results with TW, so I don't see how AW is much better than TW or Nu Finish.



I have some pictures, so I'll upload some pictures if there is enough demand for them.



BTW, the finish came out SWIRL FREE except where I used improper technique and old, somewhat dry clay on the paint. Clay? I only clayed parts of the Meguiars section, and didn't see much difference...didn't feel the need to continue.



Sincerely,

Kev
 
Uh Mark, for a self professed car guy, you should know the Continental T is a Bentley, not a Rolls.



BTW, this is with one pass (took me about 45 seconds) with Clearkote's Vanilla Moose.



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Good luck with the reviews guys. I'm pretty sure it's not a bad product. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some people (Autopians in particular) are just more picky than others.
 
CRXSi90 said:
My point is that I got good results with TW, so I don't see how AW is much better than TW or Nu Finish.



Well, I'm not quite sure how you can say that unless you've tried the AW. I mean, you are welcome to not try it because you don't feel the results are what you want, or worth it to you. But to conclude it's no better than TW or NuFinish based on some pictures... :nixweiss



Would one of the other 49 people try it and post already!! :spot
 
Sorry Scott, thanks for slapping me. I had my kids in the office and two phone calls from family going as I was trying to post that response. It is a Bently and a little tid bit of info, he will be selling the car, even after $8,000.00 of interior woodwork so he can purchase a new 2004 Bently Continental GT when they arrive in California. Wish I was there to see it.

Now to all, I made some pretty bold claims about AW and got roasted for doing so. So, I provided some photos and now it seems I have personally challenged everyone. I didn't. These photos were only posted to back up the claims. And you guys are right again, this product is not for everyone, but it has become very oblivious that the few folks here who choose to post a remark to this thread are not the only people following this thread. And you should be more careful with your post because it comes across to others that if your not an autopian you have no clue as to what a perfectly detailed car looks like. That can really insult some folks. When a car has been detailed personally or professionally if you go over every inch of the car getting all the wax residue out of the creases and seams, removed the imperfections, followed all the necessary steps of applying your products of choice to the paint or clearcoat, taken the time to coat all plastic and rubber seals, clean all the glass and mirrors, coat the inside of the fender wells, polish the rims and coat the tires. You step back, look at your work, and you feel pretty good. The last thing you want is someone to walk up and say, "Oh! You missed a spot" or "C'mon! you can do better than that". So again, to assume folks that I deal with only know what so-so looks like and are far to unintelligent to know what an autopian effort looks like, probably comes across to others and not just myself as being a little full of yourselves. This does not include all autopians, but maybe that's why you have so many more viewers to a thread as opposed to posts.

To me, an anal detailer is someone who's going to do something to his auto every day or weekend come hell or high water. I tell guys they can re-apply the polish once every 4-5 months and to my amazement they will be back to get more in 30 days. They just tell me habits are hard to break. These guys enjoy taking care of their cars daily. Then you run into the individual who lets their car go and when they realize the car is going down hill, now they're ready to do something about it. I'm glad to help them, by letting them see that with a little effort, it can be nice again.

What I found to be a little funny was in earlier threads I mentioned the time and rubbing efforts required on the first application and was roasted. Most said they would never do that, but in this current thread, now it seems some are willing to not only spend hours but days to get that final look.

One aspect of the photos I posted was, as you remove the oxidation the washrag will come up with color, but as you continue rubbing, eventually the washrag will come up with no color. At this point, I will even clay the surface sometimes just to see if all the oxidation is gone. When the clay comes up clean, then I polish one more time and again the washrag comes up clean, then I know the surface is clean, sealed, protected and with a very rich shine. That surface will not lose any of it's value for the next year, but I do remind them that doing the car every 4-5 months makes maintaining the new look very easy. Well the kids are up and I promised them a visit to McDonalds. Everyone have a very nice day.



Mark G.
 
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