My first attempt with rotary and Zaino!

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Brazo

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Process wash with NXT wash and spray foam attatchment. I was going to leave it at that but I wanted to have a crack with the rotary. I polished one side of the car with optimum polish (very good but greasy to remove) at 1500rpm on the AOTE rotary.



It looked great until I pulled it into the sunlight and it was hologram city! I then did the whole car with the rotary and followed up with the pc. I managed to control splatter with the rotary but by doing that I was inducing great holograms:star: ANy tips on how to prevent holograms appreciated. I used a sonus das green pad and optimum polish.



I clayed the front end and once polished I washed the car in Fairy washing up liquid (dawn)and dryed it with a w/w oh so carefully. This bit was a real PITA as there was no lubrication on the paint and I kept getting drying marks :wall



3 coats of zaino z2 show car polish (courtesy of Pugoman from here) later



My car has never looked so 'black'.



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Nice work Mark, car looks great, finally braved the rotary and Zaino then on the same day. Spooklily was thinking about Zaino myself today when polishing the Clio and getting it de swirled, plus thinking about winter.
 
Did you wipe the panels with an MF towel after Optimum ? I used a green pad / rotary 1700 rpm's on the hood of my GMC truck last week . What I thought was hologramming wasn't at all once I sprayed a 50/50 alchohol water mix and wiped . It was just the Polish holgramming .

crazy
 
Brazo,



If OCP was greasy you didn't work it in long enough. It needs couple of minutes per panel, then it is easier to remove. The product finishes up so fine that it won't cause holograms. Move the rotary slower. Keep it flat.



Why did you the Fairy wash? IMHO it is completely unnecessary. (Ah yeah, the Z-bonding...)



Whatever, looks great!
 
papi_jay said:
Did you wipe the panels with an MF towel after Optimum ? I used a green pad / rotary 1700 rpm's on the hood of my GMC truck last week . What I thought was hologramming wasn't at all once I sprayed a 50/50 alchohol water mix and wiped . It was just the Polish holgramming .

crazy
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I had the exact same experience with OP. When I pulled my car into the sun I almost threw-up in my mouth a little bit. I soon realized it was the polish that was causing the holograms.



JJ
 
Ya, if you're getting holograms with OCP you just need to work it a little longer. I had the same experience the first time I worked with it. I wa sso used to the SSR's that I was only working the OCP for 1-2 minutes, instread of the 4-6 minutes it requires.



That said, you did an awesome job Brazo. I've seen folks mention that brand of rotary a few times (it's a cheaper alternative?) Looks like it does the job very well, your car looks brand new.
 
How much OCP you guys pull on a panel.. E.g., the hood, I lay down a bead like 4"-6" long and then work it like 4 to 5 mins.
 
Cheers guys



Papi-Jay yes a lot of it was the polish I will remember to work it for longer next time! It was my first go with the rotary as well so I wasn't too concerned at creating holograms as I know its not a tool that you can pick up and master.



Thanks for the 4-6 min tip Picus I will try that next time.



Beading this morning



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Good work buddy!



My only tip for rotary use is to forget what you know about machine (i.e. PC) polishing - this is what caught me out as I was using PC type technique with the rotary and mucked it up. I started from scratch (no pun intended...) and used softer pads and milder products until I had the confidence to, for example, use the Makita with a cutting pad and DACP on a Merc!
 
klnyc said:
How much OCP you guys pull on a panel.. E.g., the hood, I lay down a bead like 4"-6" long and then work it like 4 to 5 mins.
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I put the OCP right on my pads, but I would say for an entire panel, like a fender, I put 3-4 dime sized dabs on the pad, then rub in, then polish. A little goes a long way.
 
Thinking about I didn't want to work a panel too long with the rotary so I wouldn't have broken it down properly. Is it safe to work a panel with a rotary for 4-6 mins?
 
Brazo said:
Thinking about I didn't want to work a panel too long with the rotary so I wouldn't have broken it down properly. Is it safe to work a panel with a rotary for 4-6 mins?
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It depend how much you put in it. If u put alot and it'sprobably going be more than 6 mins.
 
A bead of OCP about 4 to 6 inches long is overkill. You'll want to prime the pad the first time so place about a half dollar size amount on the pad (I place mine directly on the paint) and then begin polishing. After the initial application you'll want to only apply about a quarter size....I at times only apply about a nickel size....really depends on the area being polished.



One can safely run a rotary on a panel for 4 to 6 minutes as long as you move the polisher and are not above 1500 rpm's.



:idea Also remember that the larger diameter pad you use the lower the heat build up. The smaller diameter of pad the quicker you'll generate heat.



Anthony
 
Anthony Orosco said:
:idea Also remember that the larger diameter pad you use the lower the heat build up. The smaller diameter of pad the quicker you'll generate heat.



Anthony
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Wouldn't a larger pad create more heat? With a larger pad, the outer edges will be moving a larger distance in the same amount of time. So at 1000 rpm the outer edge of a 6.5" pad will have traveled ~3225" in one minute, however, the outer edge of an 8" pad will have traveled 3969" in the same time frame. So, the edge of the 6.5" pad is traveling at 53.75" per second and the edge of an 8" pad is traveling at 66.15" per second, so wouldn't it generate more heat?
 
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