Dr Oldz
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Send me your tub...I'll make sure it looks great!
Midnight Sun
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Send me your tub...I'll make sure it looks great!
rider9195
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Really?! :huh: I know everybody has their opinions, but what wax are you comparing it to?
Rocket
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I'm not sure about the great smell (just smells like wax) but I think MS looks really nice. I've used a P21s and Tropi-care nuba and I think the wetness and warm tint it gave the red on my TA was better than the other two.
Kotsios
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Fuzion, P21s100%, Autoglym, Nattys blue and Fk 1000p. All of these are better than MS.
Old Pirate
AMG Classic Car Detailing
What look is it your looking for?
Kotsios
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High gloss and depth so far Fuzion is the best I have found. Warm doesn't do it for me. My car is already a warm color its red.
Kotsios
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Smells like maple syrup to me MS has a great smell.
Todd@RUPES
Just a regular guy
I have used it on a warm car in the sun and it was fine, but I had to work very small sections. You do not want to let let it haze on the paint's surface, which on a black car in the Florida sun is going to take seconds.
The reason is Midnight Sun has an extremely high carnauba content (actual carnauba by wet volume vs. some number that is impossible to formulate). PBMG nor CMA ever quoted carnauba percentage, because a waxes true ability is far more than the actual amount of carnauba in the product. A waxes performance is a combination of the wax(s), oils, solvents, and in this case polymers as well.
Because Midnight Sun has so much carnauba (and thus a lower solvent to carnauba ratio) once it hardens it will be very difficult to remove. If you have ever seen or felt pure carnauba wax it is extremely hard (like concrete). Once those solvents flash off you are left with an extremely hard paste on the surface that will be very difficult to remove. Midnight Sun is carefully blended with premium grade oils that slow the solvent from flashing (why it is so easy to apply and remove) but it could be difficult on an extremely hot surface.
Reality33
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I have used MS by itself and its nice. Applies very easily and has nice jetting on dark colored cars.
In my opinion however, where this wax shines and has no equal, is on top of BD on dark metallic paints. This is the true reason why I own Blackfire "wet ice over fire" and is the only piece of kit used on this type of color car. The combination of deep, glowing black with unreal levels of flake pop is just astounding.
I have tried many other waxes and have several I use depending on the color of the car. For instance, I feel Dodo Banana Armour is much better on warm mid tones and gives much more to reds and yellows, where as on solid black I prefer Swissvax Mystery.
Hand me a car in nighthawk black pearl however... and its will get the BF treatment and look stunning!
In my opinion however, where this wax shines and has no equal, is on top of BD on dark metallic paints. This is the true reason why I own Blackfire "wet ice over fire" and is the only piece of kit used on this type of color car. The combination of deep, glowing black with unreal levels of flake pop is just astounding.
I have tried many other waxes and have several I use depending on the color of the car. For instance, I feel Dodo Banana Armour is much better on warm mid tones and gives much more to reds and yellows, where as on solid black I prefer Swissvax Mystery.
Hand me a car in nighthawk black pearl however... and its will get the BF treatment and look stunning!
No argument to MS being easy to work with, actually a pleasure. This is the highest end wax that I own. I used it on black metallic flake paint and it kicked it up a notch. I am under the general belief that all products look good and its mostly technique, but there was a noticeable difference with MS. I also have BFWD and have not yet tried it under the MS. When it gets warmer, I'll slap it on there and I have very high expectations.
rzatch
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Maybe I'm being sucked in by the hype on MS/BFWD but I used the Blackfire compound and polish on black BMW paint and was really happy with the end result. I have WG sealant and Fuzion already and there may no real difference between the two but I would really like to try these based on what I got with the other Blackfire stuff I've used so far.
umi000
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This is one of the waxes that I really want to get - it's a shame that I just couldn't find enough items to add to my cart to get the free sample pot during the recent Christmas sales. I'm really looking forward to the release of the new products, so I can buy the 3 oz jar.
DealerDetailer
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I recently got BFMS in a trade and will be using it tomorrow on a black GMC Terrain. Plan doing a near (+ - 90%) complete correction, following Collinite 845, then BFMS. I'm be sure to post up an article when I'm done.
I can't wait to try my first Blackfire product.
I can't wait to try my first Blackfire product.
BobbyG
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Hey Jim,
BlackFire Midnight Sun was my first experience with this family of product. I was pleasantly surprised to see how effortlessly it went on with a yellow foam pad.
I'm really an advocate for applying sealants and waxes with a dual action polisher and appropriate pad but this glided on so nicely I think this will be a hand applied product. :bigups
BlackFire Midnight Sun was my first experience with this family of product. I was pleasantly surprised to see how effortlessly it went on with a yellow foam pad.
I'm really an advocate for applying sealants and waxes with a dual action polisher and appropriate pad but this glided on so nicely I think this will be a hand applied product. :bigups
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Yes, it does go on beautifully by hand. I put it on by hand and it was a cinch just as everyone said.
Dr Oldz
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I agree Bobby. Quite a pleasure to apply by hand. I tend to use my PC a lot for LSP's. The WOWO waxes are nice to bring that "hand waxed" allure to a vehicle without killing yourself.