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I recently purchased a few Cobra Indigo microfiber towels, and Sonus plush towel to use for wax/polish removal(Nattys, AIO, EX). I immediately washed them in woolite and performed the Cd scratch test-I then noticed a few micro scratches.

Also, I have heard good things about the Vroom microfiber at Target (gray). What is everyones opinion on these to remove wax/polish?

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The CD test is not really a true "quality" test for micro fiber towels. The coating on CD's is not the same as a car's clear coat. Of the two, a car's clear coat would be more durable and subject to harsher conditions. The true test would be to actually use the micro fiber towel to buff off wax and polish on your vehicle and then inspect your finish for any faults. Please keep in mind there can also be dealer installed swirls and scratches present under the existing wax or sealant on your paint finish. With the proper tools and technique you can "reduce the potential" of blemishes introduce to your paint finish. It would be a perfect world if we could all have a "swirl-free" finish but it is inevitable you will at some point see blemishes appear. Whether they be spiderwebbing, swirls, scratches, scuff marks and/or door dings. :)



With Aloha,

Ranney :)
 
arenner80 said:
Also, I have heard good things about the Vroom microfiber at Target (gray). What is everyones opinion on these to remove wax/polish?

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They are actually now Vroom Orange MF. They are either called 'professional' or 'premium' quality Microfiber towels. The vroom white and grey ones are just Microfiber.



I recommend them. But if you like you can just take a cd into target and try for your self.
 
PakShak said:
The CD test is not really a true "quality" test for micro fiber towels. The coating on CD's is not the same as a car's clear coat. Of the two, a car's clear coat would be more durable and subject to harsher conditions. The true test would be to actually use the micro fiber towel to buff off wax and polish on your vehicle and then inspect your finish for any faults. Please keep in mind there can also be dealer installed swirls and scratches present under the existing wax or sealant on your paint finish. With the proper tools and technique you can "reduce the potential" of blemishes introduce to your paint finish. It would be a perfect world if we could all have a "swirl-free" finish but it is inevitable you will at some point see blemishes appear. Whether they be spiderwebbing, swirls, scratches, scuff marks and/or door dings. :)



With Aloha,

Ranney :)
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If anyone knows microfiber, it is this classy gentleman. I suggest you read as much about MF as you can and without a doubt, you'll end up at his website.

I never use a dry MF on the car anyway. I am always using it with a product either for lubricity (a QD) or to remove residue from wax or sealant so as Ranney said, the CD test is not a true measure of how an MF will work on the car. I still continue to do the CD test but realize that it is not the end all to always determine an MF's worth.
 
most autostore MF will not pass the cd test or any test. me thinks a shrewd MF marketer would whip some sort of test and brand as "CD-safe" to enthusiasts. But me also thinks that MF will never be optimal for clear coats. hooked fibers no matter how many .000001's of micron thin will etch paint. So will any other material for that matter. The thing that turns me off about MF is how stubborn it is about releasing the dirt.
 
I just returned from Target, and I bought myself a pack of 8 Vroom Premium orange microfiber detailing towels. I also picked up a bundle containing a meguires microfiber drying towel, nice looking quality wash mitt, and a 64 oz bottle of gold class shampoo for 8.99.

I am going to wash the Vrooms and see how they work, hopefully I will have the same positive results many others have had. :2thumbs:
 
i have been using the Vroom orange 80/20 MF and Vroom large drying towels lately to augment my small supply of "higher end" MF towels. they work great for whati use them for...i let them take care of the messier jobs (polish removal during PC work, lower panels of the vehicle, engine dressing, etc). great value if you ask me!
 
Yup I agree, I have a pack of the Orange Vrooms and find them to as good as my boutique ones. Can't beat em for 9.99 I think for 12 or 15 whatever it was. Grabbed them back in April and their holding up fine. Plus their grabbiness makes easy work of polish/wax removal.
 
The Vroom towels appear to be pretty heavy construction and good quality, a lot more durable than the cheapo mf I bought at wal mart to clean my interior. I am going to use the Vrooms right along with my Cobra, sonus and pakshak mf. Nothing against the higher brands, but right now I need to get good quality AND pay my school tuition
 
On the CD-test, I too consider it a "broad stroke" test...it lets me know if something's in the ballpark or not. Plenty of materials I detail with pass the CD test just fine so I know they're *more than* soft enough that I don't have to worry about them marring my paint.



Oh, and FWIW, I don't find the coating on CDs to be all *that* much more fragile than the lacquer on my Jag ;) That paint's become so thin that I simply can't risk additional marring; I can't just polish it again and again if something happens to it so I have to test my materials on *something* and that something has to be mighty soft. Newer vehicles can get (lightly) polished once a year or so, but not the old-timers.



Note that materials oughta be tested the way they'll be used- wash media oughta be tested wet with wash solution (the CD should be wet too), drying media oughta be tested with the CD wet, etc. And there's always how hard you're rubbing and how particular you're being about any marring that does occur (inspect the CD with your naked eye or magnification?).



BTW, my MFs from PakShak passed the CD test ;)
 
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