Microfiber Gloves - they key to hand massaging any wax or sealant?

[CharmTDI]

So you say my paint will get swirls from the MF? Is that because MF swirls paint or because it's grabbing so much dirt that the trapped dirt is causing swirls.



Danforz, do you use MF anywhere on your paint. Do you think polishing and/or buffing is also bad with MF.



FYI I only use Sonus MF products when it comes to my paint, and not the generic stuff they sell at wal mart and target.



Also, I bought some Walmart brand Sheepskin mits about 12 months ago, a few months later I discovered this site and figured MF was the best for washing.

So I used the sheepskin mits for removing snow from the panels and windows last winter.

You would be surprised how water resistant they are.

 

[danforz]

*So you say my paint will get swirls from the MF? Is that because MF swirls paint or because it's grabbing so much dirt that the trapped dirt is causing swirls.



IMHO, you paint will get swirled if you wash your car with MF. As you stated in your latter point, its because the MF traps dirt well and then rubbs it around into your paint. Some may argue that a thicker, plusher MF would inhibit this by allowing dirt to get deeply embedded in the towel. Well, granted the dirt will attach to the first thing it touches, and the first thing it touches will probably be the exterior surface of the towel, a plush towel thus won't help you much in this regard.



*Danforz, do you use MF anywhere on your paint. Do you think polishing and/or buffing is also bad with MF.



I use MF all over my paint, just AFTER its been washed via sheepskin.





*FYI I only use Sonus MF products when it comes to my paint, and not the generic stuff they sell at wal mart and target.



To be honest, I endorse and use the generic stuff. Go to Costco, you can get like 50 MFs for $15! They may not be super ulta phat plush monster fluff, but I've come to believe that that stuffs a bit over hyped. But hey, if you want, grab some of that premium MF too... I have some MFs from Meg's (the yellow, plushy ones) which I use to remove polish or wax. But I don't refrain from using the costco ones either.



*Also, I bought some Walmart brand Sheepskin mits about 12 months ago, a few months later I discovered this site and figured MF was the best for washing.

So I used the sheepskin mits for removing snow from the panels and windows last winter.

You would be surprised how water resistant they are.



As for snow, I can't comment as I live in Ca. But I'm glad you liked the Eurow mits. Oddly enough, I haven't had much like with sheep skin durabiliyt. I've used that walmart Eurow mit, and the pep boys mitt. Both of them fall apart when put in the wash/dry

 

[danforz]

Also, if your real OCD about swirls do this:



Buy 2 or even 3 or 4 wash mitts and at least one grit guard. Use the two bucket method, and place a GG in the rinse bucket (and if you get a 2nd, in the wash bucket). "Initialize" your mitts by rubbing each side of them on the grit guard to loosen dirt, ring out the water, and throw them into the wash bucket to soak up suds. Now, lets say you have 2-4 mitts, use a different side of a different mitt for each panel, avoiding the bottom areas till last. For example, top side of mitt #1 would be used to clean the roof. Bottom side of mitt #1 would be used to clean the hood. Top side of mitt #2 would be used to clean the trunk. Bottom side of mitt #2 would be used to clean the rear of the car. Do this for the sides and front of the vehicle, and then finally go over the following areas last: front and back bumper, side skirts, areas around wheels. From my experience, the back accumulates the most dust/dirt so maybe even do that last.



The general idea here is to avoid doing the worst parts till last... thus you will have absorbed as little crud in your mitts as possible, avoiding smearing crud from the rear bumper on the roof. This can be done with 1 or 2 mitts granted you follow the GG instructions I posted above, but some go over the top buying an extra mitt per pair of panels. Its up to you how you wish to precede. :2thumbs:

 

[Fred Garvin]

Same ol' same ol'....if you're gonna touch your paint with them I'd CD-test first to get an idea about how gentle the material is.

I did just that a while back. The new gloves I had scratched the CD. I'll throw them in the truck for winter, instead.

 

[imported_grease]

I use MF gloves alot. Especially for door seals and engine detailing. They work great for getting into rubber trim, and around the curves.

 

[Accumulator]

.. The new [MF] gloves I had scratched the CD. I'll throw them in the truck for winter, instead.

They might still be useful for some less-critical jobs. I use some pretty crappy MF for surfaces where marring isn't an issue.

ok, so what do all of you pro detailers use to wash your OWN cars?



I thought MF was the best wash mit.

Noting that I'm not a pro in the sense of doing this for pay...I use BHBs for the initial pass(es) and then sheepskin and/or MF. With *any* wash media, I keep a flow of suds from the foamgun between the media and the panels to provide constant flushing and lubrication.



But I agree with Danforz about the way MF can retain (potentially abrasive) dirt. Gotta be *very* careful how you use it so that doesn't happen. That's why I do the initial cleaning with the BHB and sometimes I even do an intermediate step with sheepskin. And I go through a *lot* of MF mitts even with all the prewashing. I'd sure think twice about moving a MF mitt across a whole panel without rinsing/replacing it; doubt that I ever move it across *half* a panel without at least flipping it over (and that's *with* the foamgun).

 

[danforz]

They might still be useful for some less-critical jobs. I use some pretty crappy MF for surfaces where marring isn't an issue.







Noting that I'm not a pro in the sense of doing this for pay...I use BHBs for the initial pass(es) and then sheepskin and/or MF. With *any* wash media, I keep a flow of suds from the foamgun between the media and the panels to provide constant flushing and lubrication.



But I agree with Danforz about the way MF can retain (potentially abrasive) dirt. Gotta be *very* careful how you use it so that doesn't happen. That's why I do the initial cleaning with the BHB and sometimes I even do an intermediate step with sheepskin. And I go through a *lot* of MF mitts even with all the prewashing. I'd sure think twice about moving a MF mitt across a whole panel without rinsing/replacing it; doubt that I ever move it across *half* a panel without at least flipping it over (and that's *with* the foamgun).

Damn, a car wash must take you a while :goodjob :buffing: :2thumbs:

 

[RCBuddha]

We're talking about gloves like these right?

 

[Accumulator]

Damn, a car wash must take you a while...

Heh heh, you probably can't *imagine* But then I bet most people are finished with the whole job before I even finish the wheelwells/undercarriage anyhow.



On the brightside, I don't have to polish out any marring very often So the time I spend on the "regular" part of the wash is time well-spent IMO.

 

[Harry Houdini]

Damn, a car wash must take you a while :goodjob :buffing: :2thumbs:

That is exactly what I do, my only difference is this since I have a black car.



Wash wheels first, "Special BHB for wheels face" and 5 other brushes for a different tasks,

Sod up the wheel wash bucket with Soap then hose the wheels with Pressure washer from

a 3 meter distance, spray PS21 on the wheels and clan them and hose off.

I just add industrial sprayer with citrus degreaser in it for low undercarriage parts and wheel wells.

after washing the car I spray those with Adams undercarriage "Love this thing"



as for the paint 2 wash buckets with 2 grit guards 1 sheepskin wash mit sold at the

BMW Service department "Very expensive but last for ages and sealed in plastic when new.



soup the car with foam gun, got everything else ready "Water in buckets" and then

soup the mitt with foam gun and glide the mitt of the surface "Very lightly" while the foam gun ahead of it for lubrication. Rinsing the wash mitts in the bucket regularly

after I am done with high panels, I clean my wash mitt and hang it, grab my other BHB

specially for the paint, clean it and then foam it up and do the lower panels of the car with it while the foam gun ahead of it for lube.



Pull the car in the garage and grab my Vac' N Blu and blow 80% of the water of the car

with the air. and then using a MF towel "From Pak Shak" and spray QD lightly and remove

the remaining water. :2thumbs: That my friend takes for ever but I also do Coat of spray wax by survrena after I am done drying Time? 2 to 3 hours weekly.

 

[danforz]

Im starting to think its a good thing I have a gray car

 

[Accumulator]

Im starting to think its a good thing I have a gray car..

I felt the same way about silver for a long time...but now that I'm going for a truly marring free finish on the good vehicles (at least with regard to the minor stuff) I kinda wish I had a color that shows flaws more readily..I often think I spend more time inspecting than I do correcting :think: