MF Towels are bad! Read this....

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98GTPDriva

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I was seeing if there was any interest in fellow club members buying some discounted mf towels on a message board, and this is a reply I got from one member.



"Its not wise to used Microfiber on your car. The only towels that your should use are 100% cotton, Made in the USA towels. I've been to school for detailing and they're the only ones that will not ever scratch a clean car. Sal Zaino agrees. Read his Tips on his site and you'll see. "



Before I respond to this guy, I wanted to post it here because I don't know what to say to him. I've got too many thoughts going on right now. Help me out guys (and girls). I love mf towels, but don't know much on Zaino because I haven't tried it yet. Did Sal really ever say that? Is this all a bunch of garbage, or have I learned nothing being a part of Autopia. :( Thanks.





EDIT: Just did a little research on the Zaino site, and the only thing Sal mentions on there is perfering 100% cotton towels. He doesn't mention anything else, and those are expensive towels too. What do I say to this guy now? I think he needs Autopia, or is he not worthy?
 
The main issue Sal has with microfiber is the lack of quality control in its manufacturing process. Microfiber is mainly made overseas in pretty much the same regions a lot of the cheap cotton towels are made like China and Pakistan and such. Microfiber doesn't have any more issues though than cotton. The same applies for both, buy from a reputable dealer and you should be fine. If you have any doubts do the CD test. I had well over $200 invested in 100% cotton towels from FieldCrest, Meguiars and Zymol and these days the only thing that touches my paint is microfiber from PakShak or the Autopia Store and recently Meguiars. My Fieldcrest towels now do bathroom duty and the other towels are used on my interior, mainly the seats and carpet.
 
Tell the guy to up or change his medication lol.



I think that Micro fiber towels are one of the best things out there. They make wax removal and quick detailing so much easier, cut down on scratching and marring, and retain water so much better than 100% cotton.



I honestly don't know why anyone would want to use anything else for their car.
 
I've been using microfiber towels for over a year in my detailing business and I will not go back to cotton towels for removing wax or final drying.



I guess you ran into one of those who thinks Sal is God. If Sal Zaino said to use gravel and glass shards to remove wax, I'll bet that person would try it, then swear by it. :lol



As rjstaaf pointed out, Sal prefers cottons towels, which is not the same as saying it is not wise to use microfiber towels on your car.
 
Someday this gentleman will catch-up ( in Medicine we call it CE (Continual Education) with modern dealing tools and supplies. No need to get into an arguement with him because high quality 100% cotton towels are very good... but not for my finish since the discovery ( here @ Autopia) of high quality MF's and their vendors ( pakshak, DF Towel, AutoFiber (MicrofiberTech), Autopia,(Poorboy's etc). :xyxthumbs



Hey he probably still believes a F1 racecar with a manual gear shift would be faster than their present day semi-automatic. :nixweiss



Pats300ZX,

"Tell the guy to up or change his medication" LMAO
 
I have a brand new black car and I detail it with nothing but MF, I have Magic Towel and Microfibertech at the moment, will get some PakShaks too. Absolutely no scratching. Be weary of mfs that come in detailing kits though, one I got with my Menzerna kit did scratch, luckily got the scratch right out. Strange, it did pass the CD test but maybe I was too gentle with it. The Magic Towel and Microfibertech have been absolutely outstanding :up :up
 
Scottwax said:
I guess you ran into one of those who thinks Sal is God. If Sal Zaino said to use gravel and glass shards to remove wax, I'll bet that person would try it, then swear by it. :lol
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Thank goodness for someone willing to say what I was thinking :D
 
Edges of cheap ones will scratch (I experienced that just last weekend when I ran out of clean Pakshaks), but not good ones.



I have a 10x loupe and I can't see scratches at that level. If there are scratches you can see at 100x, well I don't really care about that. Even the Hubble space telescope mirror isn't perfect (although can you imagine THAT level of perfection on a car?) :)
 
I have hundreds of dollars invested in MF towels and I would not do so if I had not tested them out first hand for drying, buffing and application.



I have super soft, velvety plush MF's, medium plushness and then I also have the cheap MF's for grunge work. I only keep cotton towels now for metal cleaning, like aluminum wheels. The thing I am looking forward to is what's next? I mean a few years ago we thought 100% Pima or Egyptian cotton was da bomb and here we are now with a new weave of fabric that was never really intended for car polishing. So what new material is just waiting in the wings for detailers to discover??



I have heard rumor of a new material called "Spider weave" or someting like that, I was told it is to be the next generation of MF. I await.



Anthony
 
Thanks for all the replies everyone, I appreciate it. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't going nuts. :bounce I don't plan to make a huge argument out of everything (even though he ruined my thread), but I'll just state a few things.



As far as Autopia goes, it and everyone that belongs to the forums have influenced me greatly. Everyone in my neighborhood knows me or my parents by my car (Is your son the one who's always outside cleaning his car???) There is no better place on this planet for detailing info. I'm only 19 (going on 20) and a full-time student, so my shelves are still a little empty, but I'll eventually get there. My birthday is the 25th of this month, so my parents agreed to get me a PC7424 from Coastal, and my girlfriend is going to get me the CMA pad kit. What a family, eh? I'm a neat freak, so detailing is right up my alley. I put flyers out where I work and have gotten a few detail jobs. Will have more coming as it gets closer to winter. I'm doing a Vette and 300zx this week (hopefully, if the weather is good). I'm also considering to open up a detail shop when I finish with school too (that management degree better do something). Thanks again everyone for your help. Autopia is the best!
 
ejant said:
August of 2002 I called Sal about towels and he said 100% cotton US made.

The reason of my call was mainly about DF towels. At that time he said they were a good towel and he was testing them.



His opinion is one persons opinion. Valid as it may be for his product.



If MF towels are so bad, then why do so many users on this forum use them with confidence and get great results.



There is probably a fair share of bad MFs on the market. Buy from a reputable dealer like Pakshak or DF Towels and you can't go wrong.
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:( :( F.Y.I. Thanks to N.A.F.T.A. , Field Crest no longer makes towels in USA. A few wks. ago, their parent company moved operations over seas,or maybe to Mexico,I forget.So now there are zero makers of towels in the USA. Pretty pathetic I think !
 
Guys, I have all types of towels. I find ALL Pakshak high quality.



As for the DF towels, damn fine towel! Soft! It rates same as Autopia CBT as it's pretty much one in the same. A natural MF that are so damn soft that it's hard to control when QD'ing! They slide all over!



You HAVE to get a least a few of these DF Towels! Maybe not as good in removing waxes, as the nap is too soft!



Regards,

Deanski
 
what do you all think of Britanne MF towels.. Primarily engineered for personal use, but what about for cars??



Their punchline is "The original Microfiber towel company since 1990".



They claim to have "ultrafine" strands, which they take a single microfiber strand and split it 16 times.



I ordered a dozen (for personal use), however I'm thinking about using one for my detailing needs.



I can tell you the towel looks very high quality and durable, and soft, however it isn't puffy like your typical terrycloth or MF cleaning cloths. Best I can describe the texture is that it feels like a cross between fine linen and cloth towel.. The weave is very dense and the cloth itself is about as thick as high-grade heavy denim.



http://www.drugstore.com/products/p...p2=83169&trxp3=1&trxp4=20&btrx=BUY-PLST-0-LST
 
squidward said:
...They claim to have "ultrafine" strands, which they take a single microfiber strand and split it 16 times...
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When I see outrageous claims like that I get suspicious of the whole product.
 
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