Menzerna PO85RD

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DTailN

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I used Menzerna PO85RD for the first time this weekend and I had some observations/questions. I applied it using a blue Edge 2k pad with my PC 7424. I spread the polish at a speed of 3 and then worked the polish at a speed of 5. I made several slow passes, overlapping 50% and worked the 2 ft section between 3-5 minutes. I wiped off the residue with a damp microfiber pad and then followed up with a dry microfiber towel. My question is did I work the polish long enough and at a high enough speed. The polish seemed to clear but it left the paint with an oily film. Maybe this is normal. It also looked the same no matter how long I worked the polish. When I wiped the surface down with a damp microfiber and then again with a dry towel, there was still some film left on the surface. Again maybe this is normal. Should I not worry about what film is left and just do a IPA 50/50 wipe down when I'm done. I would appreciate any input. Thanks.
 
I find that PO85RD does leave some polishing oils behind. That is what makes it shine so well. Yes you worked it long enough. If you want to use a sealant like AIO or Zaino then do a IPA wipedown. If you go the nuba route your ok. Add a coat of RMG and then you nuba LSP.
 
Thanks for the response. Since it was leaving a film I didn't think I was working it long enough or at a high enough speed. Glad to know this is normal.
 
3-5 min is good timing for pc. If you were using a rotary is cut half of your time. Yes, I did tried on a rotary. Eitherways you in the money ;)
 
DieselMDX said:
How do you compare this polish to others you have used?
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I'm new to detailing so this is the first polish I've ever used with a PC. I had no problems (i.e. it didn't dust) and it left the surface very slick. I topped it with UPP and I've never felt a car that slick. Maybe someone else can chime in an let you know how the polish compares to others.
 
Menzerna makes IMHO the best polishes in the world. But I would love if they could manufacture a new SRC compound. IE Menzerna PO85RD3.02 with twice the abbrasives, it would be a killer.



Oh I forgot to tell you guys that here in Sweden Menzerna is cheaper then Meguiars :chuckle:
 
As mentioned above, the oily residue left behind is perfectly normal, so long as this residue has gone clear then you have worked the PO85RD long enough - do esnure you work the polish until the residue goes clear though to get the best from it. This for me is one of the beauties of the Menzerna polishes, the way they are lubed. You can easily keep polishing with no additional water until the residue goes clear without fear of the product drying and you going to a dry buff. They are very easy to use polishes and break down very well indeed.



Re: how the Menzerna polishes compare to others on the market, well they are my personal favourite owing to the fact I like the way they are lubed and the way they break down and the effectiveness of the cut. However, it should be noted here that this is my personal preference and we all like different things from a polish as we all have slightly different techniques. They are in many ways like the Meguiars #80-series and Optimum polishes in the way they are lubed, as all these ranges have a long work time which I personally favour.



klnyc said:
3-5 min is good timing for pc. If you were using a rotary is cut half of your time. Yes, I did tried on a rotary. Eitherways you in the money ;)
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Personally, I still work the PO85RD (and the other ceramiclear Menzerna polishes) for a good five minutes by rotary over a 2' square section, ensuring the residue has gone clear. I also make my finishing passes at slow (900rpm) speeds as I find this just refines the finish that little bit extra, ideal if you are working on a solid dark colour. But then, as mentioned above, everyone's techniques vary, and its whatever works best fo you. :)
 
Thanks for the info Dave. Do you usually do a IPA wipedown after the PO85RD before moving on to a sealant or carnuba, or like MDRX8 mentioned, is it product dependant?
 
DTailN said:
Thanks for the info Dave. Do you usually do a IPA wipedown after the PO85RD before moving on to a sealant or carnuba, or like MDRX8 mentioned, is it product dependant?
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It will depend on the product you wish to follow it with, as MDRX8 mentioned... I generally follow this polishing stages with a glaze then onto a wax personally (eg Swissol Cleaner Fluid then Swissol wax for example, or #7 followed by CG 50/50 in which case there is no need to an IPA wipedown). If following with AIO, then it is a good chemical cleanser in itself, so I personally wouldn't bother with an IPA wipedown before its use.



Infact, the only reason I perform IPA wipedowns is when I'm testing to see whether a product had removed or filled defects, as IPA will strip out the filler and give you a true indication as to the correction achieved.
 
hey there guy, welcome to the detailing buss... detailing is like workingout you have to get adjusted to the diferent types of produts, but to answer your quetion I been using manzerna for over 2 years I think its one of the best produts out there you just need to use it with a high speed nothing else maybe the final polish you can use it with a pc.... and also mazerna gets along with water do when your polishing or doing run-downs just get some water and spray ones at your buffing spot and start buffing, it will help the product spread more and give you more time to breakdown.......Goood Luckkkkk
 
^^ I have to say, I would disagree with the high speed remarks, unless you are trying to use it to knock back orange peel. The newer ceramiclear version of the polishes work perfectly effectively at 1500rpm for me, even on hard paint with quite bad marring, no need to step up to the higher speeds which can induce hologramming. I always finish at 900rpm to refine the finish, finishing at higher speeds risks leaving holograms in the finish... I've also had significant defect correction using the Menzerna line by PC. But each to their own technique wise, I'd rather keep the speeds low though. :)



Which version of Menzerna are you using? The older versions (PO91L and S34A) I do find require additional water (or qd) as lube to keep the working time of the polishes up and the dust down... However, the ceramiclear versions (PO85RD3.0x, PO106FF) I find dont require any additional lube, and the addition of water just seems to make the polishing process unnecessarily messy... However, this is just my own peronal technique with the polishes, we all have our own methods. :)
 
I think if you mix a bit of the RMG with the PO85RD it will work great. I have tried it with 1066 and IP. I found a thread from Rag I believe he was the first to try it and then I saw Scottwax doing it too. We all know if Scott is doing then it must be good. :)



http://autopia.org/forum/detailing-product-discussion/69237-ip-rmg-mixed-amazing-results.html



Once you use this mix I believe you are probably ready for an LSP. Just some ideas.



MDRX8 said:
I find that PO85RD does leave some polishing oils behind. That is what makes it shine so well. Yes you worked it long enough. If you want to use a sealant like AIO or Zaino then do a IPA wipedown. If you go the nuba route your ok. Add a coat of RMG and then you nuba LSP.
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Agree, I was used to spritzing my pad with Intensive polish and started to do it with 106ff and it was messy..Took me a while to figure it out
 
porta said:
Menzerna makes IMHO the best polishes in the world. But I would love if they could manufacture a new SRC compound. IE Menzerna PO85RD3.02 with twice the abbrasives, it would be a killer.



Oh I forgot to tell you guys that here in Sweden Menzerna is cheaper then Meguiars :chuckle:
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Sorry to bump an old thread, but where in Sweden? I know a guy who is going over there for a years so I think he could ship me some.
 
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