Menzerna PO106FF...which pad via PC?

[TGates]

I received my sample of this polish today from flatstick and am going to be using it on my 2004 Corvette Z06. I know they have pretty hard clearcoats but I'd like to stay away from a cutting pad if possible because the paint is not in bad shape... just has never been polished. Does this polish work okay with a polishing pad via PC?



What are the differences between it and IP/FPII?

 

[ceiol]

great question -- I also ordered a bottle of 106FF from flatstick, so I wanna subscribe to this post

 

[gmblack3]

great question -- I also ordered a bottle of 106FF from flatstick, so I wanna subscribe to this post

Me too guys. Flatstick got mine to me in a few days.



Not sure what I'm gonna use it on first.



I was gonna use a propel green pad from excel detail. I do have a blue pad, but Patrick said not to use that with FPII. So not sure how close the 106ff is in cut to FPII.

 

[imported_flatstick]

I received my sample of this polish today from flatstick and am going to be using it on my 2004 Corvette Z06. I know they have pretty hard clearcoats but I'd like to stay away from a cutting pad if possible because the paint is not in bad shape... just has never been polished. Does this polish work okay with a polishing pad via PC?



What are the differences between it and IP/FPII?

Yes you are correct in using the polishing pad if you have never polished your Vette. if the car was already polished and you were only removing the LSP and some very slight marring then I would step down to a finishing pad. just be sure to go easy on the amount of polish, a little goes a real long way if you use it right. I try to stay away form going above 5 most of the time. just be sure to work the polish until it is opaque in color. hope this helps. please post pics I am sure it will be :drool:

 

[imported_Neothin]

A polishing pad will work great. I got out all of the light swirling on the tC with 85RD on a white 4" LC polishing pad, so with 106FF's greater cut, it should work even better.

 

[imported_flatstick]

Me too guys. Flatstick got mine to me in a few days.



Not sure what I'm gonna use it on first.



I was gonna use a propel green pad from excel detail. I do have a blue pad, but Patrick said not to use that with FPII. So not sure how close the 106ff is in cut to FPII.

Again I would say that if the finish is in very nice shape start with a finishing pad. if you have spider webs and more noticable marring step up to the polishing pad. as far as cut my understanding is the it is slightly more agressive than FPII. hope you guys post some pics. I love to see what the 106FF does when used correctly. I have a black blazer set up for Friday this week, can not wait to see how it comes out. the look on the owner's face will be priceless :2thumbs:

 

[TGates]

I can't wait to try this polish. Thanks for the deal on the sample, flatstick. I think I'll try it with a Meg's polishing pad (6 inch). Should I prime the pad first with water or a QD or just leave it dry?



I will take some before and afters of the Vette but I'm not sure how dramatic they will be. The car is Machine Silver Metallic which is probably one of the hardest colors I've ever tried to get any WOW factor from.



I'm going to be using the 106FF, EX-P (or UPP.. haven't quite decided yet), and Pinnacle Signature Series wax.

 

[imported_flatstick]

I can't wait to try this polish. Thanks for the deal on the sample, flatstick. I think I'll try it with a Meg's polishing pad (6 inch). Should I prime the pad first with water or a QD or just leave it dry?

To be honest I just leave it dry to start.if the polish gets too wet it takes a long time to break down and will slow your progress quite a bit until you get it to dry.if I were using a brand new pad a will give it just a tiny squirt to soften the pad slightly to break it in. this is what works for me.does this answer your questions ? if I can help you more with this polish PM me. I do not know it all but will share my experience the best I can.

 

[imported_flatstick]

I can't wait to try this polish. Thanks for the deal on the sample, flatstick. I think I'll try it with a Meg's polishing pad (6 inch). Should I prime the pad first with water or a QD or just leave it dry?



I will take some before and afters of the Vette but I'm not sure how dramatic they will be. The car is Machine Silver Metallic which is probably one of the hardest colors I've ever tried to get any WOW factor from.



I'm going to be using the 106FF, EX-P (or UPP.. haven't quite decided yet), and Pinnacle Signature Series wax.

Please get me some pics please. remember take it slow and work the polish until it is opaque. also make sure you overlap your passes. metallics look great with this stuff. sound like a broken record here but do not rush yourself. I am sure you will like the results. you may want to forget about the LSP lol ! as far as the wow factor silver can have some wow , just needs to be prepped well. does it compare to black... no but trust me a daily black driver is lots of upkeep.

 

[White95Max]

I used it with a Propel blue IIRC. It definitely does go a long way. You can work it forever. And it leaves a nice squeaky clean finish.

 

[imported_flatstick]

I used it with a Propel blue IIRC. It definitely does go a long way. You can work it forever. And it leaves a nice squeaky clean finish.

Paul the blue is the finishing pad for Propel correct ? been waiting to see how the polish worked for you. I love the squeaky clean sound when it is removed. makes me feel like the LSP will bond like a champ :up

 

[imported_chpsk8]

I used it with a 3M orange buffing pad on my black 02 GS300. I was able to work it a long long time with great results. Sorry Flatstick, I wasn't able to take any shots yet. Two hours after I finished my lovely wife drove through a snowstorm, so we're back to a dirty car!



He's also right about using small amounts of product. A little goes a long ways. The pad I used was slightly agressive, but the finish I Was working on was very scratched up. I was able to take out most of the scratches in the hood after a couple passes. The spidering and swirling on the side of the car came out easily. The only thing I'm having a hard time removing is a few scratches in the trunk. I didn't take a lot of time with it yet, ran out of steam this weekend. I plan on moving to a more aggressive pad, that should fix the problems.



I've been very impressed with this polish. The results I got were very impressive. I can't wait to try out some more Menzerna products! I'll tell ya that a combo of 106ff, a quick coat of Red Moose and finish off with some Nattys Blue gave me a great wet look. I wish it was summer so I could experiment more with some other products!

 

[blkyukon]

Does this polish work okay with a polishing pad via PC?



What are the differences between it and IP/FPII

I always start with a polishing pad then got to a cutting pad if needed



I'd label IP as a medium cut polish and FPII as a finishing/light cut polish



Here is what 1 pass with medium cut polish (IP) can remove:

Here is what a Finishing/light cut polish can remove:

I can't wait to try this polish. Thanks for the deal on the sample, flatstick. I think I'll try it with a Meg's polishing pad (6 inch). Should I prime the pad first with water or a QD or just leave it dry?

I agree with flatstick on not misting the pad. Whenever I mist the pad or add water to Menzerna it's a PITA to remove, so I always use a dry pad with both IP and 85RD

 

[imported_flatstick]

I used it with a 3M orange buffing pad on my black 02 GS300. I was able to work it a long long time with great results. Sorry Flatstick, I wasn't able to take any shots yet. Two hours after I finished my lovely wife drove through a snowstorm, so we're back to a dirty car!



He's also right about using small amounts of product. A little goes a long ways. The pad I used was slightly agressive, but the finish I Was working on was very scratched up. I was able to take out most of the scratches in the hood after a couple passes. The spidering and swirling on the side of the car came out easily. The only thing I'm having a hard time removing is a few scratches in the trunk. I didn't take a lot of time with it yet, ran out of steam this weekend. I plan on moving to a more aggressive pad, that should fix the problems.



I've been very impressed with this polish. The results I got were very impressive. I can't wait to try out some more Menzerna products! I'll tell ya that a combo of 106ff, a quick coat of Red Moose and finish off with some Nattys Blue gave me a great wet look. I wish it was summer so I could experiment more with some other products!

Glad to see the polish is working out well for you. I find it very easy to work with. it is ok that you do not have any pics yet, doesn't it always rain or snow after a detail on your own ride lol! when you get a chance in the future snap us a few shots. I am waiting for spring as I want to try AJ after using the 106, should be a nice look with some descent durability. ScottWax had some pics of the 106 with OCW, have used that a few times and it is a nice look that takes very little time as another option as far as the combos goes. well I am off to grab some shuteye will check back with everybody tomorrow. again feel free to ask questions and or offer suggestions, that is why we are here.

 

[White95Max]

Paul the blue is the finishing pad for Propel correct ? been waiting to see how the polish worked for you. I love the squeaky clean sound when it is removed. makes me feel like the LSP will bond like a champ :up

The gray is the finishing pad. The blue is a light polishing pad. I took a few pictures comparing the polished fender with 106FF/SG, but there was no obvious difference between it and the panel with AIO/UPPx2/S100. The whole car was polished in the fall, so it's pretty much free of any swirls or oxidation.

I did like the polish a lot though. I plan on using it on the whole car in the spring.

 

[gmblack3]

My buddy has a silver 2000 grand prix. He said it does have some swirls in the paint but they seem to be somewhat light. I won't know for sure till I see it myself.



Should I IP first with orange propel pad then the 106ff with blue or green pad?



I guess I will just try the IP first and see what happens or I could try the 106ff with green pad. Decisions, decisions. :buffing:

 

[imported_flatstick]

I always start with a polishing pad then got to a cutting pad if needed



I'd label IP as a medium cut polish and FPII as a finishing/light cut polish













I agree with flatstick on not misting the pad. Whenever I mist the pad or add water to Menzerna it's a PITA to remove, so I always use a dry pad with both IP and 85RD

Glad to see you chimed in on this post, you seem to be very well known for using the Menzerna polishes. see you are from the SF area, was there on my honeymoon. what a nice city, except for driving if you are not from there. I thought NY City was tough :laugh:

man you miss a turn and you have to go blocks to get back to where you want to be. all kidding aside our visit to SF and Monetery was great. I can really get used to the weather for sure. my wife and I would love to move .

 

[imported_flatstick]

My buddy has a silver 2000 grand prix. He said it does have some swirls in the paint but they seem to be somewhat light. I won't know for sure till I see it myself.



Should I IP first with orange propel pad then the 106ff with blue or green pad?



I guess I will just try the IP first and see what happens or I could try the 106ff with green pad. Decisions, decisions. :buffing:

I would start with the 106 with a green pad and do a 2x2 area and see how it looks. unless the swirls are deep you may only need the combo I mentioned. just my two cents.

 

[imported_flatstick]

The gray is the finishing pad. The blue is a light polishing pad. I took a few pictures comparing the polished fender with 106FF/SG, but there was no obvious difference between it and the panel with AIO/UPPx2/S100. The whole car was polished in the fall, so it's pretty much free of any swirls or oxidation.

I did like the polish a lot though. I plan on using it on the whole car in the spring.

glad to see you are liking the polish, since you polished it in the fall you can not expect to see any change. glad to see you will be using it on the whole car.it works well for me and I enjoy using it.

 

[gmblack3]

I would start with the 106 with a green pad and do a 2x2 area and see how it looks. unless the swirls are deep you may only need the combo I mentioned. just my two cents.

Sounds like a good plan. :up