Menzerna or Optimum Compound?

Hi guys, I was thinking about trying out my PC with some new products, being that my Rotary is the work horse and I feel that I need to sharpen my skills for the more delicate finishes. I was thinking about using the Menzerna Line PG or IP or Optimum Polishes Compound. I want to remove normal/ heavy swirls from dull oxidized finishes and dont want the polish to dust or gum up. I have heard that Optimum takes for ever to polish out and menzerna is quicker but more dusty. I will probably use a cutting pad for the compound and would just like to know some opinions and suggestions. Of course I will probably have to follow with a polish but that is fine, thanks for the help!

Andrew
 
HEre is what I would get.

Powergloss - for the really bad stuff

Optimum Polish - I use light cut pad @1200 rpm to remove swirls. Keep in mind optimum works best at 1200.

Optimum Compound - I havnt tried it yet but Im guessing it picks up were the polish left off. Im guessing its less abrasive than powergloss.

Menzerna Final Polish II - The best for getting a perfect finish after compouding or heavy poishing. finishing pad @1500 rpm leaves a flawless finish.

Greg
 
AZ Ferrari Man said:
I was thinking about trying out my PC
To get back on track with the PC. I have used the OC only once on the hood. I worked it 4-5 minutes and that was not enough. Must have had too much product (didn't use as much as I would use with Poorboys SSR 2.5), it was a bear to remove. So anyways..not much experience with OP but it did not dust, which was good and it was easy to work. Sorry I couldn't be much help.
 
I can't comment on Optimum Compound. I do have the polish but only tried it a little via PC. I like the absence of dust. I do use Menzerna often with dual action buffers. Regarding the PC specifically, it can do a good job especially with 4" pads. The polishes for Ceramiclear, the "PO twins", work rather well with the PC with a 4" pad, the Cyclo, and most remarkably, the rotary. With the rotary, they are the best thing I've seen approach "1,2, 3 and voilà, spectacular finish". From the "standard" Menzerna line, FP II happens to be the polish I use most often. I use it with my Cyclo and have good results where the Cyclo can't fit with the PC and 4" pads.
 
Both of the Optimum products have huge working times. I was getting 10 minute work time with the polish, a rotary, and a light cutting pad. With a PC it should take longer than that to get the results you want. 10 minutes at speed 6 should take care of everything, I find that while these polishes don't need higher speeds they do work well at higer speeds. I usually keep it at 1400 rpm or so on the Makita but sometimes I'll kick it up to 1600-1700 if I've got some crazy leveling to do, works great.
 
PG via pc wont break down or somthing says greg_cavi. followed with scientific facts that prove that. :holiday:
 
To clear up a little bit I dont think Powergloss would work well with the pc. I dont think the pc can generate enough heat to break down the polish.

Greg
 
Menzerna and Optimum are my top 2 polish choices. For PC work, I think Menzerna has the upper hand. I've had very good luck with Power Gloss on the PC using a wool or Orange pad, but I tend to agree with others that PG works best via rotary.
 
Before i had the rotary i used a lot the PC , and it produced great results with Menzerna line, PG,IP,FF, FPII

Rotary is way faster with Menzerna than pc, its a fact.

Menzerna dusts a little, the results are amazing and with german clearcoats its a must :punk:
 
Hi, like to offer my 2 cents. i only have 2 days' experience with op compound and polish via PC. Dust is a non-issue fo the op and i tried to remove both with a MF bonnet which saves me lotsa elbow grease.

Regards to working time, i started with speed 2 to spread both polishes for about 1-2mins then increase to speed 4-5 for another 5mins or so. Compound uses both 4"and 6"LC orange pad and the polish uses 6" LC orange and white pad. I manage to remove 90% of the light scratches and swirls and the remainders only visual under extreme lighting and inspections. Oh yes, mine is a black car :)
 
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