Menzerna clarification

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imported_paradigm

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hi everyone...i've been off the boards for quite a while, but hoping to be more active again. one thing i'm looking to do is replace my near-empty Menzerna Final Finish II bottle of awesomeness...



i searched through and found quite the history for the Menzerna products...especially the FFII.



basically, i would just like the exact same product, but if it's not available, what is most comparable? i like FFII for it's gloss and ease of use (little dusting, easy to wipe away).



looks like the history is:



Final Finish II --> Micro Polish PO87MC ...then phased out



and...



Final Polish FF-3000 PO85U is the current product equivalent. (?)





so is FF-3000 the closest replacement or do i need to go to the Super Finish "Nano" SF-4000 to keep the same cut/finish and dusting qualities?



thanks for any help!
 
1. Menzerna GMBH EU Abrasive Levels and Reference Numbers



• FG 500 – Fast Gloss (POS500): Cut 10/10: Gloss 5/10 – 22930 ) not sold in the US, due to VOC regulations

• PG 1000 – Power Gloss (POS34) Cut 8/10: Gloss 3/10 -22984

• IP 2000 – Intensive Polish (PO91L) Cut 7/10: Gloss 6/10 - 22106

• PF 2500 – Power Finish (PO203) Cut 6/10: Gloss 8/10 - 22828

• FF 3000 – Final Finish (PO85U) Cut 5/10: Gloss 9/10 - 22029

• SF 4000 – Super Finish (PO106FA) Cut 5/10: Gloss 10/10 - 22911

• SW - Sealing Wax (PO60) Cut 2/10: Gloss 10/10 – 22870



Menzerna GMBH, EU polishes have slightly different formulations and cut levels compared to the Menzerna US versions



2. Menzerna USA Abrasive Levels and Reference Numbers



• PG 1000 – Power Gloss Compound (S34A) Cut: 5/5.0 - Gloss: 1.5/ 5.0

• SI 1500 – Super Intensive Polish (PO83)

• IP 2000 – Intensive Polish (PO91E) Cut 7/10: Gloss 6/

• PF 2500 – Power Finish Polish (PO203) Cut:3.5/5.0 – Gloss; 3.5/5.0

• FF 3000 – Final Finish Polish (PO85U) Cut 5/10: Gloss 9/10

• SF 4000 – Super Finish Polish (PO106FA) Cut:2.5/5.0 – Gloss; 5/5.0

• SF 4500 – Super Finish Polish (PO85RD) Cut:3.5/5.0 – Gloss; 5/5.0
 
thank you for the additional info. i was looking over the chart on autogeek, so the extra reference is great to compare with. since the original product is gone and was rated at cut 2/5 and gloss 4.5/5, that'll point me to the SF-4000. i'm hoping the SF-4000 has the same workability (dusting/easy wipe-off) as the FFII. :)
 
paradigm said:
thank you for the additional info. i was looking over the chart on autogeek, so the extra reference is great to compare with. since the original product is gone and was rated at cut 2/5 and gloss 4.5/5, that'll point me to the SF-4000. i'm hoping the SF-4000 has the same workability (dusting/easy wipe-off) as the FFII. :)
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I do not find SF-4000/4500 to have the same workability as FFII. They dust more and require a little more effort to remove IMO, but they do work well.
 
PO85RD / SF-4500 must be the one to try. i have PO85U (although it is from several years ago, if that matters) and i never cared for it much. it was much less friendly to work with compard to FFII. :(



i did find PO87MC / FFII in autopia's store, but it's a full gallon. it does say "Final Finish II" as well on the label, but i would hate to have a gallon sitting around. maybe i'll try to find someone to split it with...
 
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