Meguires No. 20 Poly Sealant

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I am new to this board and I had a question that I tried to search for but the search engine must be down. I just put a coat of Meguiars No. 20 Poly sealant on yesturday and it looks good but I was wondering if anyone has tried this product and what they thought of it??..I put it on for the winter trying to protect the paint from all of the salt that they put on the roads. Any comments?? Thanks!
 
SLULarry said:
Gentlemen,



I am new to this board and I had a question that I tried to search for but the search engine must be down. I just put a coat of Meguiars No. 20 Poly sealant on yesturday and it looks good but I was wondering if anyone has tried this product and what they thought of it??..I put it on for the winter trying to protect the paint from all of the salt that they put on the roads. Any comments?? Thanks!
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First of all... welcome to the board! I hope you have prepared all your loved one's because this "detailing" hobby will consume your entire life. You will never again look at a car's finish without looking for spiderweb swirls and improper techiniques!



That being said... I am an avid #20 user. I absolutely love it and here are some of my thoughts:



- A little goes a long way. You can put #20 on very thin. If doing it by hand (like me) use a foam applicator. I couldn't find any foam once and bouoght the terry applicators instead. :mad: They soak up so much product it's obscene.... gets your hands all messy.



- I have found that it does not like moisure when being removed. When I run across some hidden drop of water from my drying process... it tends to streak and take a little extra elbow grease to buff it out. I have solved this mostly by recognizing where the water tends to sit and dry it repeatedly before I apply #20.



- Make sure to use fresh, clean towels to buff off. The residue builds up rather quickly and, again, it tends to streak a bit when the towels get gummy. I usually have three clean towels; One I use for the majority of the removal with the second for a second buffing pass. Once the first towel gets saturated with residue... the second towel takes the place of the first and I grab the third towel for the buffing. Think: Karate Kid's 'Wax on, Wax off technique." :D



- Make sure to give a critical eye to your car once it's done. (As if you don't already!) I do this just to make sure I didn't miss any of those slightly streaked areas from water or a gummed-up towel.



I wish I could talk about layering #20, but I have not done that yet. With it's light cleaning properties, I'm not sure if a second layer will actually remove the first, but the professional I buy it from said a second coat (or a carnuba topper) can be applied... just wait like 30 minutes for the first coat to cure properly.



Enjoy!
 
Honeygold -



Do you apply #20 to the entire car, then buff from the beginning? Or do you do one section at a time... What is the recommended method?



thx
 
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Chris S said:
Honeygold -



Do you apply #20 to the entire car, then buff from the beginning? Or do you do one section at a time... What is the recommended method?



thx
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I don't have the bottle in front of me, but I believe it says to apply one section at a time. The Meguiar's Gods will frown upon me, but I apply it to the whole car at once (in shade, of course) and then buff off. Call me crazy and this is only based in the logic of my own head... but I feel it helps the sealant cure that way. By the time I'm finished applying the sealer, the stuff I put on first is ready to be removed.... and so on.



Hopefully next week I'll have some photos of a couple of cars I've done with No2 Swirl Removal and #20.
 
I also do a whole car application removal. And I wait a good 20 minutes before I buff off after application. If you do the application thin, there should be no problem with removal. With 2 MF's, I can do my whole car. But HoneyGold is correct in that if you get any moisture on the unbuffed #20, it's a real pain to remove.
 
2wheelsx2 said:
But HoneyGold is correct in that if you get any moisture on the unbuffed #20, it's a real pain to remove.
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Seems to be the case with all polymers... I've heard the same about Klasse.



If i do #9 v2.0 before #20, do i have to wash between those steps, or can i go straight to 20 from #9?



thx
 
Chris S said:
If i do #9 v2.0 before #20, do i have to wash between those steps, or can i go straight to 20 from #9?
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I go straight from #9 to #20... haven't had any issues whatsoever.
 
#20 has some mild cleaners in it. I don't use #9, but I use 3M SMR, which is just another swirl remover. #20 cleans off the oils and fillers left behind by SMR, no problem. Never had a problem with bonding yet.
 
2wheelsx2 said:
#20 has some mild cleaners in it. I don't use #9, but I use 3M SMR, which is just another swirl remover. #20 cleans off the oils and fillers left behind by SMR, no problem. Never had a problem with bonding yet.
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Cool, I prefer 3M SMR anyways, so I guess I'll go with that. I just thought it might have been wiser to stay with the same product manufacturer. :xyxthumbs
 
#9 is a bit milder, and easier to work by hand. 3M SMR is a bit more aggressive, so works better with a PC. I have access to both, but since I have a PC, I use SMR. If I am doing a spot by hand, I might use the #9, as it is easier to work. But now that I have DACP, I don't use the SMR as much either. :)
 
I recently used #20 on my two cars--01' ruby red Alero and a 02' reflexive silver Passat. Both came out very nice. As some of the other posters have noted--put #20 on with a thin coat and use of a foam applicator is essential. I used a Viking foam applicator--the one with the handle--and it has a pretty dense foam--great for #20.



As for application, I did 2-3 sections at a time and then went to buff off the first section. I was taking my time, so the #20 was on the paint surface close to 20 minutes. The bottle says to do one section at a time and buff, but I thought I wanted it to be on the paint longer. As long as I used thin coats--there were no troubles buffing off with MF towels.



I topped the Alero with some 3M showcar paste wax--just for fun--and it really added some nice depth and shine. I am going to put a coat of Collinite #476 wax on the Passat and see how it comes out.
 
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