Meguiars Product Guide Help!

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Radicalrev

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Is this list in the right order of what to be used first?





Meguiars NXT Gen Car Wash - Meguiars NXT Generation Car Wash



Meguiars Pro Detailing Clay - Meguiars Professional Detailing Clay



Meguiars Swirl Remover #9 - Meguiars #9 Swirl Remover a powerful cleaner and polisher in one excellent product! #9 Swirl Remover pulls up dirt and grime and reduces the appearance of swirl marks and minor scratches.



Meguairs #3 Mirror Glaze - Meguiar’s #3 Professional Machine Glaze is a true polish in the sense that it uncovers the paint’s natural shine to enhance the final wax coat.



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Meguairs NXT Tech Wax - Meguiars NXT Generation Tech Wax



Also, for swirl remover do you orange or white pad? The mirror glaze to be use with black/gray pad??? and the wax is the blue pad right??

(not too sure)

Thanks for the help guys!
 
You got the order right.



as far as the pad for the #9, depends on the car and how much correction needs to be done. Most often, the orange would be the go-to. Depending on how bad the swirls are, you may need to go to a heavier product or a yellow pad.



The rest of the pads and products look right to me.
 
IMO #9 and #3 steps are going to be negated once you use the NXT. NXT has cleaners in it that will remove the other products.



Others may feel differently about the #9 and #3 because it could add some gloss to the mix, but it will be minimal at best. NXT is a product with strong cleaners and it does contain fillers (not as much as what is in #9) to hide the swirl marks.
 
Megs Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner and a mediu cut pad will remove oxidation pretty good always clay first.
 
NXT 2.0 also has cleaners.



You can use either #26 or #16 (no longer sold by national vendors).



#21 also plays nice with #5 and #7 glaze, it may also do well with #9 and #3.
 
#26 Is an excellent product. KH765 I am addicted to it's smell, especially the liquid. I have recently used 2.0 on all my cars. Got it in the kit (which I own four of). Can't pass up the great price for the QD's, wheel cleaner and even tire gel. (clearance for $17). But four bottles of 2.0 will last me ten years.



Don't worry about using #9 with 2.0 or Nxt tech 1 because you are using the #9 mostly for the cutting ability (which doesn't have much but good for swirls with orange pad.)



Also, the cleaners in the wax (not marketed as a cleaner wax though) will remove most of the polish. But using #3 will still be another step in the paint prep process. It definatley will not hurt and there still can be some benefit.



Pads- Use orange with #9 to start if (and only if) it is needed to remove swirls. You might want to use #9 again with white to remove any marring or webs. Make sure to look at paint under lite other than florescent lite to check for imperfections. Then move onto #3 to even everything out.



Apply #26 with hand if you go that route. Nxt wax is easily applied with pad. IMO it goes on more even and thinner so it is easier to remove.
 
thanks fergnation...also this might be a stupid question, is the orange pad washable? or do most people throw them away after use??



For the wax, decide to use the 2.0...



P.S (any1 knows where to get a USED PC for a good price? also where to get a great deal on microfiber towels?)
 
Hello



The order is correct! I think the Swirl Remover is a pretty mild product and seems to have very limited impact on any marring IMO.



Although, even by hand the use of a mild abrasive polish every few months will help to refine and improve the surface. If you have muscel to do it!



As for the NXT, i dont believe it cleans any more then many other products. I have always used a glaze underneath and in side by side comparison of glaze and no glaze the glazed side was always deeper and wetter.



NXT is not a cleaner wax. The fact that Meguiars says it cleans a little is just its way of settling in and getting old. Something a lot of products do, many companies just do not make that omission as they know end up getting labled cleaner waxes etc.
 
steelwind101 said:
Hello



The order is correct! I think the Swirl Remover is a pretty mild product and seems to have very limited impact on any marring IMO.



Although, even by hand the use of a mild abrasive polish every few months will help to refine and improve the surface. If you have muscle to do it!



As for the NXT, i dont believe it cleans any more then many other products. I have always used a glaze underneath and in side by side comparison of glaze and no glaze the glazed side was always deeper and wetter.



NXT is not a cleaner wax. The fact that Meguiars says it cleans a little is just its way of settling in and getting old. Something a lot of products do, many companies just do not make that omission as they know end up getting labeled cleaner waxes etc.
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:bow Ole Glaze master :)



Because of the great respect and admiration that I have for you on this subject, I went back and researched the topic a little more in depth on the Maguiars site and based on what I have found, I retract my earlier comment about NXT (including 2.0), #9 and #3. You can use these products (at least from what the Meguiars forum said) together without removing the other glaze products. Meguiars states that their products all work together as system.



Although I have always had the belief and experience that anything under NXT will normally get removed, based on the information that I have found today that may not be totally accurate. I am saying this with tongue in cheek, because I personally have seen very little difference between adding a glaze under NXT (#3) and not adding a glaze (#3). With #21 I have seen a difference though.
 
I would be worried about proper bonding of #21 or NXT on top of the Machine Glaze. But thats just me. I like putting #21 on a squeaky clean finish.
 
Okay, so how bout #80?? Will it make more difference that #21? Also which one is safe so that i can re polish and wax every month??
 
#80 isnt really a glaze, its more of a fine polish. And everytime you re-polish, you will be rmoving the #21. You shouldnt have to re-polish every month. just top with #21 and a coat of #26 (or NXT), and re-apply wax accordingly. IMO of course.
 
howareb said:
:bow Ole Glaze master :)



Because of the great respect and admiration that I have for you on this subject, I went back and researched the topic a little more in depth on the Maguiars site and based on what I have found, I subtract my earlier comment about NXT (including 2.0), #9 and #3. You can use these products (at least from what the Meguiars forum said) together without removing the other glaze products. Meguiars states that their products all work together as system.



Although I have always had the belief and experience that anything under NXT will normally get removed, based on the information that I have found today that may not be totally accurate. I am saying this with tongue in cheek, because I personally have seen very little difference between adding a glaze under NXT (#3) and not adding a glaze (#3). With #21 I have seen a difference though.
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Hi! I think it really depends on what paintwork, i noticed a difference using a glaze with silver and also on dark solid colours. I think if you NXT by machine it does increase its cleaning ability though so that probably plays a part.



If people are worried, they can certantly do M80 then NXT or 21 etc. You will get some glazing, and if it gets removed you have not spent 20 mins on another process that got wasted.



Geoff
 
thanks for all the responds!!! i really appreciate the help here! So is the NXT better to use hand than machine since using machine increase its cleaning ability? For every 3 months, should i just go with #9 then #21 ??? Or #9 then NXT 2.0?? Or #80 then #21??



And for maintainance, I would wash my car every week or every 2 weeks. Then should I give the car a full wax every month?? Or will a quick detailer/wax do the job after every wash???
 
Radicalrev said:
thanks for all the responds!!! i really appreciate the help here! So is the NXT better to use hand than machine since using machine increase its cleaning ability? For every 3 months, should i just go with #9 then #21 ??? Or #9 then NXT 2.0?? Or #80 then #21??



And for maintainance, I would wash my car every week or every 2 weeks. Then should I give the car a full wax every month?? Or will a quick detailer/wax do the job after every wash???
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Once you do the paint correction you really only need #9 or #80 maybe 2 times a year at most. If you want to glaze then #3 (my choice), #5, or #7 would be your products and you can do this every time that you go to rewax; once a month if you want, but you could probably get three months out of the old #21 without issue. The durability news on the NXT 2.0 looks favorable according to Scottwax's beta testing, so you could use that as well. Also just my opinion, but I would apply the LSP by hand and the #3 glaze by machine.



You should wash once a week if you can, and QD at least every other day to keep dust to a minimum but do what time allows for. Most QDs take less than 5-10mins a day.
 
Okay, so what are the different between #3, #5, #7?? all are glaze...and they are all non abrasive am i right (since its a pure polish) But again, if I use NXT 2.0, will it take off the glaze since it has cleaning ability? Or should I use #21 instead? So confusing...
 
Radicalrev said:
Okay, so what are the different between #3, #5, #7?? all are glaze...and they are all non abrasive am i right (since its a pure polish) But again, if I use NXT 2.0, will it take off the glaze since it has cleaning ability? Or should I use #21 instead? So confusing...
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The consensus is:



Use NXT 2.0 and #3, you will see a slight glaze improvement.

Use #21 and #3 (My recommendation) will be the best way to glaze IMO.



#21 is not as easy to find as NXT 2.0 although your local NAPA or Carquest may carry it. The new #21 is expected out soon, which is supposed to be improved. SO my reccomendation for using NXT 2.0 would be based on if you could not find #21.



#5 is a dry low gloss glaze used on new cars to prep the car for an LSP. It is used as a polish to clean off the finish. Not the best product for rotary use, but could be used. It tends to dry out quickly.



#7 is a Wet Oily Glaze, used on show cars to give a high shine. It is not the easiest product to work with on Clearcoats. Many user complain of streaking. In most cases the people are not using it correctly or they are using too much product.



#3 is a combination of both #5 and #7 in a sense. It is slightly less oily than #7, but is intended for machine use. This product is easier to work work and IMO will give the best result for using a DA or rotary.
 
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