Meguiars Gold class wax

Memory serves me as DC stating itself as a pure wax. I won't even bother asking the percentage and grade of carnauba it actually contained.



It worked fairly well for me in the past. Of course I've learned a little bit more about waxes since then, but all in all I think that the 3-step DC is fairly good for an average over the counter cleaning system. You shouldn't have problems with maintaining your clearcoated surface if it is in immaculate condition, as I've used Meguiars DC for several years on my prior car that still has its showroom shine.



Durability I have found that to be more of a subjective term. A lot of people commonly mistake carnaubas as not long lasting, whereas I've maintained my resolution and build-up for months with no problem (It also helps to put on and buff off the wax properly, not caking on excessive layers at a single time, and allow a little time for it to dry).
 
Lets say the store you are buying products in has all MEGS I would buy #16, #26 NXT way before I would think of Gold Class.....just 3 products better then the crapy GC
 
I have had the stuff for years and have never liked it. For me, removeal has always been difficult and shine and protection is subpar.
 
Mohamed said:
:LOLOL: ...in any case, it's garbadge and I'm off to Zaino, I just need a bit of time to put it on. I guess I need to re-Dawn the vehicle? or can I just apply what i have ontop after I wash the car?



By the way thanks to all of you with your help :) .
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LOL, not garbage, just not the right tool for you. Think of waxes and polishes as liquid tools, and apply them as needed. As an analogy, you're looking for a box wrench, and GC is a 12 point socket.



It's not the right tool for me, either. But, it is what it is, neither good nor bad.





Tom
 
Mosca said:
LOL, not garbage, just not the right tool for you. Think of waxes and polishes as liquid tools, and apply them as needed. As an analogy, you're looking for a box wrench, and GC is a 12 point socket.



It's not the right tool for me, either. But, it is what it is, neither good nor bad.





Tom
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I agree with Tom, just for the record, while it may not be the right wax for Autopians, it is America's Number One selling Premium Liquid Wax and has been for years.



Also just to note, Meguiar's also has the number one selling



* Cleaner/Wax, (A-1216)

* Mist & Wipe (Quik Detailer, A-3316)

* Spray Wax (Quik Wax, A-1616),



So while Gold Class may not offer something for everyone, there sure a lot of people they buy it and like it.



Mike
 
MIKE as much as I love you and the few points that you made I have to disagree........................................JUST because it's americas top selling wax(the average joe knows nothing about auto wax)doesn't make it a good product.First of all NO DURABILITY SECOND stains trim THIRD A REAL PITA to remove FOURTH just about in every store BIG display of MEGS GC taking up a major portion of the shelves. The difference between #26 and GC is MAJOR.What MEGS should do IS revamp it so its easier to get off and have more durability (MORE THEN 3 weeks) but his is just my opinion..............................................
 
Just out of curiousity, how are you accurately measuring durability?



I know that some have given GC a bad rap in terms of durability because it does not bead water for long. But as Mike has mentioned, water beading is a sign of high surface tension and not necessarily protection or durability of a product.



As others have said, the product is not right for you. I have never personally had any issues with product GC removal. But, if you are happier with another product, then that is the one you should use. :)



Tim
 
2hotford said:
Just out of curiousity, how are you accurately measuring durability?



I know that some have given GC a bad rap in terms of durability because it does not bead water for long. But as Mike has mentioned, water beading is a sign of high surface tension and not necessarily protection or durability of a product.



As others have said, the product is not right for you. I have never personally had any issues with product GC removal. But, if you are happier with another product, then that is the one you should use. :)



Tim
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I gauge it by how well I'm able to remove stuff off my paint and how the paint feels and looks, for example the yellow pollen that some trees like to spit out. Well get it on my Tundra (with Zaino), it so freakin easy to come off and more importantly NO STAINING UNDERNEATH. Plus you can use the California duster and the car is as good as new. The body look as if something is on it as it's quite glossy.



On my Honda (with the Meguiars), pollen sticks to the damn body as if I had just clayed the car and left it there without anything else. Plus it stains underneath, and leaves it mark. Plus, forget about using a California duster, it doesn't do anything, plus the body feels thin, as if nothing is on it. It looks only reflective but doesn't look like there is a layer of protection on it. You guys say it last you about three weeks, blah!!! In my case, because my car is parked outside and it's a black car, that wax lasts no more than three days to a week.
 
Hey,



When you refer to staining, you do mean the trim correct?



Again, the ease of which something comes off the surface, in terms of things like pollen, does not measure the durabilty or protection. Though I am perplexed as to why there is pollen sticking to the GC.



I know one of the main problems with GC is that people do not give it enough time to set up before either QD'ing the finish or even washing it. After removing the residue, GC should be left overnight to set-up before water or a QD touches the finish. To do so earlier could possibly hurt the products durability. Now I am not saying that is what you did. I am just saying that in general, many people do not wait the time and experience poorer results.



The main thing is to use the product that makes you the happiest! :)



Cheers!

Tim
 
2hotford said:
Hey,



When you refer to staining, you do mean the trim correct?



I know one of the main problems with GC is that people do not give it enough time to set up before either QD'ing the finish or even washing it. After removing the residue, GC should be left overnight to set-up before water or a QD touches the finish. To do so earlier could possibly hurt the products durability. Now I am not saying that is what you did. I am just saying that in general, many people do not wait the time and experience poorer results.



The main thing is to use the product that makes you the happiest! :)



Cheers!

Tim
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Nah I mean the body, it does stain the trims also, but that's not my main concern as the trims that it does stain I'm able to get off easily. ;)



Overnight? you mean when the haze comes about, or just in general? I've tried two different ways. First, after about an a hour after I'd buffed out the haze, apply a QD. Then last Sunday, I didn't apply anything afterwards, period, and it is still not durable.



You're right though, I shoulda, coulda, woulda...etc :D used Zaino right from the start. It is what makes me happy :)
 
Hey,



What I mean is that after waiting for the GC to be removed (do the swipe test - the product will probably require 10 - 20 minutes before wiping off. Do not leave it too long either as this may also lead to other problems), then you should wait overnight before touching the finish with water or a QD.



In the old days, I remember using Blue Coral two step which is VERY different that today's Blue Coral. I remember that to break the static from the application that you were told to wash the paint right after your final coat. But if you do that today with polymers and synthetic polymers, the water 'may' react with the product's ability to set up properly. Hence durability may be affected. How each company's products react to water during this time is anyones guess.



Another thing that people do is to apply a QD to the foam applicator pad in order to spread a product more evenly on the surface. However, there again, water has been added to teh surface before the product can set-up. I know that Meguiar's recommends not using a QD to prime foam pads or applicators when applying the final last step product.



But just like some like Fords and others like Chevy's, some will prefer other waxes based on their personal experience with a certain brand. :)



Tim
 
As an example...



My daughter and I did my wife's car today, the Malibu. We spent 4 hours on the interior, mostly on the carpets; there were two major spills. When we were done, I didn't feel like doing a 2 step, let alone a 3 or 5 step (and it was clayed about a month ago), so I looked over my cleaner waxes and chose...



ColorX.



Over GC,





And over DC Cleaner, Mother's Cleaner, NXT, MPPP, #6, #20, AIO, and maybe 4 others that I can't think of right now.



ColorX is, IMO, one of the most underrated products on the market right now. I can't think of a $5 wax that's anywhere near it.





Tom
 
L33 said:
Maybe i don't see it, but i'm holding the bottle in my hand and i don't see anything about a "cleaner" wax. Just car wax
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You have to read between the lines of the product description most of the time. Only a few waxes, like Meguiar's Cleaner Wax and Mothers Cleaner Wax actually come out and explicitly SAY that they are cleaner waxes. Probably 95% of the waxes on retail shelves tend to be cleaner waxes because they are the best thing for average car owners to use. Non-cleaner waxes shouldn't be used without prep.
 
Even with the pure waxes available over the counter, you will be hard pressed to find any that will admit to how much % wise of carnauba their product actually contains.



If you are good in keeping the car clean, then an average over the counter wax with good quality will serve you well.



When it comes to absolute resolution and the finest quality result and depth of finish, IMO that will depend heavily on (yes!) preparation, but most important, grade, content and quality of a wax or quality of a synthetic finisher.
 
Hi, CarKrazy....this is your Malaysian friend again!



Megs Gold Class gives a good gloss but durability is lousy.

I don't know how Meguairs can release such a market into the market. Surely they must have tested it extensively before launching it!



If I were you, just change over to Zaino.

I did the switchover and have never regretted. The difference is significant and I do not miss my previous P21S, Pinnacle and Megs No26 at all.
 
What I don't understand is that most people that wax there car 2-3x a year(average americans)use GC wouldn't they want to use a product that is easy on and easy off?The easier it goes on the easier the more often you would like to use the product.GC being the #1 selling wax is now easy to take off making people that waxing there car thinking its a chore to do
 
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I kinda like GC. I have just bought some #26 because I'll always look for something better, but for me durability is not the issue. I like to keep my truck freshly waxed so durability is not an issue, rather appearance is. And Gold Class nakes it shine as good or better than anything else I have tried. I have used GC, Mothers Pure Carnuaba(which I also like), Zaino, NXT, and a whole boatload of others through the years. Right now I have two coats of NXT on it topped with one coat of GC and the look is pretty awesome. Everything can always be improved, but you kinda have to like the look GC gives.
 
Mohamed said:
Good so I'm not the only one that is having problems with durability. I used it on my black Honda and it just doesn't last over a week in my case.



Going back to Zaino...whenever I can afford more of it, I'm running out of the product (been using it on my truck).



Is there any other product out there that is easily sold in the stores and can be applied by hand (no PC buffer) and lasts, until I get around to Zaino?
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GC is noted for sheeting for as long asa it lasts rather than beading. So, although it doesn't last very long, a week may be a bit too short. You may be mistaking the lack of beads for the extreme lack of life.



If you're looking for pretty easy with a longer life, I'd suggest NXT.
 
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