Meguiar #83 DACP with cutting or polishing pad?

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I've used the search but since #83, polishing, and cutting are too general for the search engine, I can't really find what I'm looking for.







I just bought myself a gallong of dacp. I have never used it before, but I want to do it right the first time.





I would think I need to use the dacp on the cutting pad to remove the swirls I have on my car, but since the dacp is a polish, would it be better to use my polishing pad instead? I have the Sonus pads (orange, green, blue).





One last thing. I've gone up to #6 on my PC before and I could not handle it for more than 5 minutes before my hand gets all numb and funny. How do you guys handle it? lol. I tried switching hands but it's still annoying! :nixweiss



Thanks everyone!
 
It depends how bad the swirls are.



Since you're starting fresh, start with the green pad. Check your results and decide from there.



If its removed 50% of the swirls, use the green pad again. If its made little difference, step up to the orange pad, then finish with the green pad and a milder polish. The reason being, the orange pad is quite aggressive and, although it shouldn't leave a haze, it will lower the gloss. Personally, I'd use a finishing polish after any aggressive polishing session whether its DACP or similar.



I rarely use 6 on my PC. I don't have vibration problems - it feels like a mild massage to me. I just find most pads don't like it, and it allows the polish a little longer to do its job before breaking down.



Hint: Don't use too much pressure with the Sonus orange pad - it hates it. Its an unusual pad...gently does it.
 
i think the reason your hand was going numb is due to the counter weight, i remember reading if its too heavy/light it would cause hand going numb.
 
Some people are just more sensitive to vibration than others. You can get vibration-reducing gloves (LINK) if you have a problem; this is something to be taken seriously, as "white finger" can be a serious problem (think- permanent nerve damage). FWIW, I prefer the combo of 6" counterweight and 5.75" flex backing plate, though using 4" pads and a 3.75" flex plate is probably the *best*, vibration-wise.



I've heard that #83 by PC/cutting pad can leave hazing that can be almost impossible to remove, and an Autopian at the last St. Louis G-T-G cut through the clear on an early '90s Benz with that combo, so be careful.
 
Accumulator said:
I've heard that #83 by PC/cutting pad can leave hazing that can be almost impossible to remove, and an Autopian at the last St. Louis G-T-G cut through the clear on an early '90s Benz with that combo, so be careful.
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:cry: :faint:
 
:shocked I've used DACP w/ a cutting pad on speed 6 with zero issues zillions of times.



As far as vibrations, these gloves work great. I have a pair. I used them until I got used to it. Just be careful when wiping the polish off as to not scuff the paint with them.



http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/RIN-16310.html



I bought them there. Great prices and cool selection of products.
 
Spilchy said:
..I've used DACP w/ a cutting pad on speed 6 with zero issues zillions of times...
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Yeah, just gotta be careful and remember that every situation is different.



Accumulator said:
..I've heard that #83 by PC/cutting pad can leave hazing that can be...
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Heh heh, big difference between *can* and *will*, huh?
 
In my experience, the bad pairing is #83 and Megs burgundy cutting pad. :scared: :scared:



Bad pad for anything with a PC! Whenever I've used it, its dulled the finish to the point of not being able to recover...I don't know why; I can take out scratches, swirls, oxidation, anything...but can't bring the gloss back after the big bad burgundy pad! :hairpull
 
Alfisti said:
In my experience, the bad pairing is #83 and Megs burgundy cutting pad. :scared: :scared:



Bad pad for anything with a PC! Whenever I've used it, its dulled the finish to the point of not being able to recover...I don't know why; I can take out scratches, swirls, oxidation, anything...but can't bring the gloss back after the big bad burgundy pad! :hairpull
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Agreed, I don't think it's as bad with the LC yellow pad, though the orange is as low as I go. Anything beyond that and I typically go to the rotary.
 
No, the LC yellow seems to work ok.



I really have never needed to use anything higher than an orange pad on c/c finishes.



The only time I've used full-on cutting pads is on solids...and that's rare too.
 
I've definitely induced hazing with the Meg's cutting pad and DACP via PC. It was removable for me with a lighter polish and a polishing pad, though. But a cutting pad via PC is probably not the best choice unless you are pretty much out of options.



I have had great success with orange pads, DACP, and the Cyclo. Though I've been having some issues getting it to work while still being possible to wipe the residue off. But the corrective action was pretty great.
 
I have had very mixed results with DACP. I cannot remember who said it really works best on a rotary where the heat allows it to function correctly. I now use Sonus SFX without any problems at all.
 
Aurora40 said:
But a cutting pad via PC is probably not the best choice unless you are pretty much out of options.
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I have to disagree with this -- I've used the cutting pad via PC at speed 6 many, many times without a single incident of haze/clouding. I use it with 3M Perfect-It II Rubbing Compound (Fine Cut)... follow up with DACP on a meg's yellow polishing pad at 6, and the finish is perfect. I'd be more scared of that burgundy pad on a rotary than I am with it on my PC. :waxing:
 
I have used DACP with CMA's yellow cutting pads and have had no problems whatsoever. I follow up with meg's #9 and WaX Shop's Safe Cut with CMA's white polishing pads for a smooth finish ready for waxing/sealing.
 
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