Meg's Quick Wax every few weeks over KSG Topped with 845

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Nopstnz8

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Hey guys so about a month ago I finish a full swirl correction on my moms car that I've taken to school, and it looks great. I only had time to use one coat of KSG for my LSP, but want to top it with 845. Does 845 attract dust since it's carnauba? I've strictly stuck with KSG since it repels so well and is so durable. Since I don't have time to wax it every other week, I was wondering if I could apply Meg's quick wax over the Collinite 845? I know you can put carnauba over sealants, but not the other way around, so basically my question is whether Ultimate Quick Wax is considered a sealant or wax? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
IMO, topping KSG with 845 would be great.

Note: Personally, I'd want 3 layers of KSG first....and then top with 845.



845 does not pose any dust problems for me.

On the contrary, the car looks clean and sharp for a longer period of time with 845.



UQW is an excellent product, and my favourite QD in my shop.

It's great on top of 845 and almost anything else.

Yesterday, my detailing staff applied 845 on my wife's car, and I'll be QD'ing it every 4days with UQW.



You're on the right track, bud.
 
I too would rather add more KSG than top with 845, but yeah.. 845 is one of those "hybrid" products that seems to have the benefits of both waxes and sealants with none of the downsides of either.



Eh, you guys are getting me all itchy to try the UQW for those applications where I usually use leaves-stuff-behind QD. Can UQW be used on a not-completely-dry vehicle (thinking, the "QD while drying" approach).
 
Accumulator said:
I too would rather add more KSG than top with 845, but yeah.. 845 is one of those "hybrid" products that seems to have the benefits of both waxes and sealants with none of the downsides of either.



Eh, you guys are getting me all itchy to try the UQW for those applications where I usually use leaves-stuff-behind QD. Can UQW be used on a not-completely-dry vehicle (thinking, the "QD while drying" approach).
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Hi Acc!!

Megs did not mention about using UQW on a wet/semi-wet car while drying it, but I've tried it, and it's great!
 
gigondaz said:
Hi Acc!!

Megs did not mention about using UQW on a wet/semi-wet car while drying it, but I've tried it, and it's great!
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OK, copy that, glad to hear it. Thanks for the info, I didn't want to precipitate some kind of streaking/etc. issues.



I do, however (noting this thread's title), think that with KSG on a vehicle I'd rather use something else. Sonus' Acrylic Glanz comes to mind. But on the vehicles I'm waxing I might have to give the UQW a try.
 
^ That Sonus Acrylic Glanz is some good stuff.



I love UQW, but keep in mind that its a spray sealant. It reminds me a lot of FK425 and is very nice to use. IIME, it's nearly exactly like Ultimate Quick Detailer, but doesn't have the cleaning ability and instead has more slickness.
 
Mix up some KSG spray wax. Three parts distilled water to one part KSG. You have to try it to believe it. It's as easy to use as regular KSG is hard.
 
....I guess I'm an odd ball because I simply didn't like UQW that much when I tried it. I didn't spend much time with the product but I would get some random streaking/patchiness on dark colors at times that required a second wipe-down in those areas. ....maybe just a bad bottle or (more likely) my own technique. In either case, I always seem to go back to DG AW in those scenarios where I wish to use a QW.
 
I appreciate posts about the UQW that include "but"s and comments like Kean's. One of the things I absolutely insistt upon is that the products I use for this be utterly, uhm..."Accumulator proof". Zero issues, no learning curve, perfect results every time. Yeah, that's an awful lot to ask, huh?!?



Yakky- Heh heh, wonder why I find KSG so easy to use :think: Wouldn't have enough lubricity for what *I* am thinking of anyhow, but yeah...people who struggle with their KSG might oughta try that.
 
Accumulator said:
I appreciate posts about the UQW that include "but"s and comments like Kean's. One of the things I absolutely insistt upon is that the products I use for this be utterly, uhm..."Accumulator proof". Zero issues, no learning curve, perfect results every time. Yeah, that's an awful lot to ask, huh?!?



Yakky- Heh heh, wonder why I find KSG so easy to use :think: Wouldn't have enough lubricity for what *I* am thinking of anyhow, but yeah...people who struggle with their KSG might oughta try that.
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There have been times KSG worked so well for me, that I've wondered what all the complaining is about. Then I've had it slap me in the face a few times, and I'm using less that 1/2oz on a car. I wish I could figure out what the unknown variable is, its not temp for sure. I've been surprised at the KSG+water trick. I got at least a month, possibly two out of a single layer. I wasn't expecting much so I didn't write anything down, but it does seem to work. And its as easy to use as DG AW.
 
yakky said:
There have been times KSG worked so well for me, that I've wondered what all the complaining is about. Then I've had it slap me in the face a few times, and I'm using less that 1/2oz on a car. I wish I could figure out what the unknown variable is, its not temp for sure. I've been surprised at the KSG+water trick. I got at least a month, possibly two out of a single layer. I wasn't expecting much so I didn't write anything down, but it does seem to work. And its as easy to use as DG AW.
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Do you remove it with a damp microfiber towel or with a dry towel only? Damp then dry works perfect leaving no streaking at all.
 
LUSTR said:
Do you remove it with a damp microfiber towel or with a dry towel only? Damp then dry works perfect leaving no streaking at all.
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Always dry, and the majority of the time I have zero issues, but once in a while it sets up like concrete.
 
yakky said:
Always dry, and the majority of the time I have zero issues, but once in a while it sets up like concrete.
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I've been advocating removal of KSG witha damp towel for years now. It's only downside is that you're spending roughly 10 minutes more removing it, but it removes extremely easily and has its usual durability.
 
Forget the uqw and pick up some duragloss aqua wax. It is a much better product.



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The Count said:
Ok is the KSG a glaze and you guys are using that for your last step? And it lasts for a year?
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KSG is called a glaze as per its name but I, along with many others, consider it a sealant as it provides some of the best protection and doesn't mask much in terms of defects, like glazes generally do.
 
Oh cool, so you would use that after polish as the last step? How many coats? Does it really last a year?



Sorry I'm new to autopia and trying to learn a lot.
 
The Count said:
Oh cool, so you would use that after polish as the last step? How many coats? Does it really last a year?



Sorry I'm new to autopia and trying to learn a lot.
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Sorry forgot that part... it definitely doesn't last a year from my experience. I have seen an average of 3.5-4 months with 2 coats during the warmer months and roughly 2.5-3 months during the winter using 2-3 coats. As a general rule, I would say you can expect two coats to last about 3 months.
 
The Count said:
Oh cool, so you would use that after polish as the last step? How many coats? Does it really last a year?
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KSG is generally used after Klasse All In One ("KAIO").



Layered heavily enough, KSG can last well *OVER* a year (BTDT, many times) but you do have to build up a lot of layers otherwise the durability is merely "very good" instead of "unbelievable".



According to Yakky those many layers of KSG can hide a little minor marring too (never did it for me, but hey...).



IMO if you're only gonna do one or two coats, you'd be better off with FK1000P by a long shot. Maybe even Collinite 845 too. The big benefit to KSG is the ability to layer heavily, though I suppose some people might also like how it looks (not me though).



Lest the preceding sound really negative, note that I've used heavily layered KSG for years and it's the *ONLY* LSP that's ever shown signs of actually resisting marring by creating a "barrier"/"coating" that's tough enough to do that.
 
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