meg's polishes and compounds without fillers

Accumulator:



tnx for your clarification. like what I've posted in MOL, it's really a matter of personal preference. :D



and yes, you've missed the drama! :D



stiege:



As far as I know, meg's TS oils is present in "all" of their compounds and polishes (including consumer waxes). Thus, they call it Trade Secret (TS) which adds beauty to any megs compound/polish' finish. Megs rely on this Trade Secret for almost 100 years of experience in developing show car winner detailing products.



The low numbered compounds polishes are designed for SS paints whereas the 80's series is for BC/CC paints. Both may be used with the rotary.



Do I sound like promoting Megs? No! I'm not. I've just summarized what Mike posted in MOL regarding my question on fillers in that forum which coincides with this thread.:D :D :D
 
Thanks everyone for your help with this. I think I'll try some #80 and #83 and see how it goes.



Can I use the low numbered polishes with the PC even though the label says use with the rotary only? Or is it a waste of time?



Thanks again,



Jason
 
If it says rotary then its for the rotary. You could use it, but why when there is another product developed specifically for the PC.
 
Yeah, my experiments using #2 by PC did *NOT* turn out well. Didn't work well with the Cyclo either. Rotary only, IMO and I didn't like it all that well even then.
 
Meguiars #1, #2 and #4 need the heat generated by a rotary to properly break down the abrasives in them. The 80 series products from #80-#83 are PC friendly and work well.
 
stiege said:
Back to the original question. What if any Meg's polishes/compounds are available without "fillers"?





Jason
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No one ever did answer his question .. i'm curious too. Especially ones PC friendly.
 
Jesstzn said:
No one ever did answer his question .. i'm curious too. Especially ones PC friendly.
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Yes, the question was answered...sort of...Mike Phillips confirmed that all Meg's polishes have the "Trade Secret Polishing Oils"...what then ensued was an argument as to whether those are "fillers". And so it goes.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Yes, the question was answered...sort of...Mike Phillips confirmed that all Meg's polishes have the "Trade Secret Polishing Oils"...what then ensued was an argument as to whether those are "fillers". And so it goes.
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Yeep your right .. I was browsing looking for a diffinitive listing and missed that part.



TY
 
Setec Astronomy said:
what then ensued was an argument as to whether those are "fillers". And so it goes.
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I didn't see this at all. What I did see and participate in was a discussion regarding the removal of fillers to reveal what defects may still be left behind. I thought everyone agreed with what fillers themselves are:nixweiss
 
Thanks to Scottwax and Accumulator for your definitive answers on the low numbers and the pc.



In the end, I ordered some #80 and #83 figuring they are far apart in aggressiveness to handle my wife's hard Passat paint.



As far as fillers, they seem to have less than #9, and I'll probably be using AIO and SG anyway, so I guess it doesn't really matter.



On a side note, if you have access to Insider's Advantage discount buying service through your workplace or other organization, they offer 30% off Meg's products.



Thanks again for all your help,



Jason
 
stiege said:
In the end, I ordered some #80 and #83 figuring they are far apart in aggressiveness to handle my wife's hard Passat paint.





Thanks again for all your help,



Jason
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Jason I have a Passat too and both work well on it with a PC ..I also have good luck with the Menzerna polishes on it and I like them with the hard paint because I can reactivate them with a light spritz of dist. water.
 
Take FP II, I'll use that with a damp pad, work it in for quite a while, wipe whatever's left behind that's dry, inspect, then polish again with it dry( just the polish not on a damp pad), not necessarily working it all the way it can go( wiping away a little more product). Because it's dry it will take less time to work in. I just recently tried this and it worked rather well.
 
I started with FPII on the Passat's moderately swirly black fleck paint and really got nowhere. Then I just used 3M machine polish and that improved the swirls, but didn't get them all. This spring I'll try the #83 then the #80 and see what happens.



Jason
 
When I had a situation like that, IP with a cutting pad, taking a lot of time via PC or Cyclo helped. I followed with FP II and polishing pad.
 
Awww shucks.... I knew the answer... #1, #2, #4, #82 don't have fillers - at least if you read the descriptions on the bottles.



#2 fine cut cleaner

giving you a professional finish that's ready for polishing, protecting-and if necessary, painting.
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I could be wrong on the #82 but I'm fairly certain of the others.



Polish in Meguiar's-speak means glaze (fillers) as far as I'm concerned (flame suit on). So if I see that if the description on the Meg's product contains the word "polishes" or (more obviously) contains "oils", then I believe it's got fillers.



See SuperBuick's post here: http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28519&pagenumber=2.

;)
 
merci said:
Awww shucks.... I knew the answer... #1, #2, #4, #82 don't have fillers - at least if you read the descriptions on the bottles.







I could be wrong on the #82 but I'm fairly certain of the others.



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That's what I thought too! Which is why I asked the question about their suitability for use with the PC.



Jason
 
Guys, according to Mike Phillips all Megs polishes have fillers...it's just he doesn't call it fillers...he calls it oils.



All Megs polishes contain TS oils to *buffer* the abrasives as they break down (diminish). Without it they'll marr the finish too much. Thus, they contain buffered diminishing abrasives. The TS oils also provide a richer polished look.



Some possess more than others. The *purpose* is to buffer, but a side effect is filling.



Then some Megs polishes/glazes, in addition to TS oils, contain kaolin clay whose purpose is to fill.



Thus, to varying degrees, whether its the intent or not, *all *Megs polishes have fillers.
 
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