Megs Hyper-Wash dilution

acuRAS82

acuRAS82

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I know I’ve heard different advice about dilution, but I don’t understand why Meguiar’s lists the dilution ratio as 1:400 and yet instructs one ounce be added per 5 gallons (640oz) of water. I understand estimating or rounding, but these ratios are not even close.

What are your preferred ratios for general maintenance washes?
 
I`m doing 1 oz. with 2 gallons of water. I think their dilution recommendation is a bit far-fetched.
 
When I had used Hyper Wash I filled the bucket to just under 4 gallons since the bucket is marked in gallons and then added the ounce and then blasted from the bottom of bucket with the pressure washer to activate the foam and round out to 4 gallons. Prior to Hyper Wash I was using Honeydew (which suspiciously says 1:640 on Autogeek`s page) where I would put the soap in before the water via garden hose. This didn`t work with Hyper Wash because it would just generate so much foam it was spilling over the top of the 5 gallon bucket way before 3-4 gallons of water was in there.

I had to switch to actually measuring when using Hyper Wash because it seemed like if it was mixed too hot it was more of a pain to rinse off even using a pressure washer. It felt like it would just mask the sio2 sprays I was using at the time, prior to wash I had more beading than after is what made me start watching the water ratios. This is what made me try CarPro Reset and I`ve used it ever since been using up the last of the Hyper Wash on non LSP`d cars I`ve washed for others.

About the only flaw you can make with Reset is not buying it in the 4L jug first.
 
Britsdaddy said:
I just pour a bunch in. That stuff is super cheap. Carpro Reset I`ll measure out.
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I never do this because I like to know that I’m not under-lubricating or over-intensifying (hurting or masking my LSP) according to how manufacturers intended the chemical to be used. I’m definitely a ‘measure carefully’ person.
 
gorram said:
I had to switch to actually measuring when using Hyper Wash because it seemed like if it was mixed too hot it was more of a pain to rinse off even using a pressure washer. It felt like it would just mask the sio2 sprays I was using at the time, prior to wash I had more beading than after is what made me start watching the water ratios. This is what made me try CarPro Reset and I`ve used it ever since been using up the last of the Hyper Wash on non LSP`d cars I`ve washed for others.

About the only flaw you can make with Reset is not buying it in the 4L jug first.
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Yesss.

I prefer Reset but no planning on using it every time, especially not on non-SiO2 paint. I know I could but I got the HW gallon and it’s good stuff. I’ve been doing similar to you... 1z to 4 gallons after all frothing is complete.its worked well in my opinion but the label really bugs me so I’m glad to hear others’ experiences.

i will be getting a 4L or Reset once my 1000ml has dwindled.
 
I found the sweet spot to be around 1 oz to 3 gallons of water. I tried doing 1 oz to 5 gallons and i felt it lacked lubrication. It makes sense since 400 oz is 3.125 gallons. If you want to use 5 gallons of water then you should use at least 1.5 oz. I did use 2 oz to 5 gallons before and i really liked the lubrication, it`s just that my car is small and doesn`t really get all that dirty so 5 gallons of solution is a bit overkill for my needs.
 
SNP209 said:
I found the sweet spot to be around 1 oz to 3 gallons of water. I tried doing 1 oz to 5 gallons and i felt it lacked lubrication. It makes sense since 400 oz is 3.125 gallons. If you want to use 5 gallons of water then you should use at least 1.5 oz. I did use 2 oz to 5 gallons before and i really liked the lubrication, it`s just that my car is small and doesn`t really get all that dirty so 5 gallons of solution is a bit overkill for my needs.
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Yeah, this makes sense, using the ~1:400 ratio. I may try 1:3gal and compare to 1:4gal. Or maybe use 1:3gal when the car is extra dirty (which it usually isn’t except for winter) and stick to my 1:4gal for lighter maintenance washes.
 
I assume that if you wanted to precisely measure out the amount of Hyper Wash for the desired dilution ratio of the amount of water you are expecting to use, you could use a plastic medical measuring cup graduated in both ounces or teaspoons/tablespoon and milliliters (cubic centimeters) you find at drug stores or veterinary supply stores for dispensing liquid medicines.
For example, if you are using 2-1/2 gallons (320 fluid ounces) of water to wash with and want a 300:1 dilution ratio, you would need 1.06 ounces of Hyper Wash. If you wanted a little more "robust` dilution ration of say, 250:1, then you need 1.27 ounces of Hyper Wash. If you are accustomed to using the metric system, 2-1/2 gallons is approximately 9.5 liters of water, for a 300:1 dilution ratio, then you need 3.16 millititers. Remember that in computing product needed for the desired dilution rations to sum (add) the dilution ration (water amount PLUS product amount) and divide that into amount of water you will be using.

I am with Britsdaddy on this though on dispensing Hyper Wash; I "eyeball" it and add water to the bucket as needed. One thing about Hyper Wash it that it does,indeed, make a lot of suds/foam when you add pressurized water from a hose with a nozzle that it may be hard to determine how much water you have actually added to the bucket. One way to "mitigate" this is to place the hose nozzle at the bottom of the bucket and use a partially open hose bib/faucet along with a fanned spray pattern with the nozzle OR just use the hose WITHOUT the nozzle (common sense, Captain Obvious!), although the mixing action is mitigated as well, which is why I like leaving the nozzle on.
 
Lonnie said:
I assume that if you wanted to precisely measure out the amount of Hyper Wash for the desired dilution ratio of the amount of water you are expecting to use, you could use a plastic medical measuring cup graduated in both ounces or teaspoons/tablespoon and milliliters (cubic centimeters) you find at drug stores or veterinary supply stores for dispensing liquid medicines.
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I’m fine with the dilution calculations. My question was really based off the jug directing two completely different dilutions (1:400 and 1:640).

For my product measuring I’m happy enough with the precision I get from any of these bad boys (the blue cup is 1oz).
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I generally do anywhere from 2-4oz for a wash depending on which vehicle, how many mitts or MF towels I plan to use (I still wash my Acura with only 2 mitts and a 2 bucket method which doesn’t require much soap). For my other cars I use many gloves which certainly uses up more wash soap. Then the final factor in how much water I use is to get the amount of soap concentrate to within half ounce increments.
 
This is a timely question, I`m glad to see the discussion.

I`ve got a jug of Hyperwash standing by when I run out of the Optimum I`m using now. I wasn`t sure how much to use. Going to "rich" on the ratio often makes soaps hard to rinse off so I really don`t want to over due it.

I too use the 1oz pump, so this has been very helpful.
 
acuRAS82 said:
How much water in your normal wash bucket?
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I almost always fill 4.5-5 gallons of wash. Using 1.5-2 oz gets me a close to the proper dilution when using a 1oz single pump top on the bottle without going to the trouble of really measuring the soap.

In the past I used a double grit guard setup and then changed to a grit guard+GG Washboard setup.

So the extra wash liquid helps since the last gallon or so is really not usable.



 
Desertnate said:
This is a timely question, I`m glad to see the discussion.

I`ve got a jug of Hyperwash standing by when I run out of the Optimum I`m using now. I wasn`t sure how much to use. Going to "rich" on the ratio often makes soaps hard to rinse off so I really don`t want to over due it.

I too use the 1oz pump, so this has been very helpful.
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Well, maybe that is the reason I had "problems" with Optimum Car Wash Soap. OPT-CWS seemed to leave a residue behind for me, but I attributed that to hard municipal water supply that CWS did not seem compatible with AND bad drying techniques (used to use chamois).

I switched to Hyper Wash after seeing high-respected Autopian All-Star Rasky1 use it in his details. What do I like most about it? The cleaning ability for one. Lubricity for another. And yes, it does rinse clean. It is cheaper price-wise per gallon than Megs Professional No. 62 Car Wash and Conditioner, which WAS my favorite. That No.62 car soap just smelled heavenly and rinsed REALLY clean, even in harder water.

AND, on a completely different note, I see someone above mentioned about not using the last gallon or so at the bottom of a 5-gallon soap bucket due to the Grit Guard in it. For this reason, I choose not to use one in the soap bucket, but I DO in the rinse bucket. But for those who do choose to use a Grit Guard in the soap bucket, I wish Grit Guard made a "thin" version/design for use in soap buckets. Might seem kinda self-defeating of the purpose of a Grit Guard, but some "protection" is better than none AND it would allow you use a smaller amount of soap/water mix in the bucket for washing. Anyone else ever have that idea or maybe modified an existing Grit Guard and cut down the legs/ribs to make it thinner for use in a soap bucket??
 
^^Lonnie, FWIW, I don’t use grit guards in the soap bucket... I tried when I started this hobby but it didn’t seem worth it after enough experience.
 
SNP209 said:
I found the sweet spot to be around 1 oz to 3 gallons of water. I tried doing 1 oz to 5 gallons and i felt it lacked lubrication. It makes sense since 400 oz is 3.125 gallons. If you want to use 5 gallons of water then you should use at least 1.5 oz. I did use 2 oz to 5 gallons before and i really liked the lubrication, it`s just that my car is small and doesn`t really get all that dirty so 5 gallons of solution is a bit overkill for my needs.
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Same for me. I find 1.5oz in a 5 gallon (not completely full) bucket works well for me. Less and it isn’t slippery and more and it’s a PITA to rinse. It’s like a knife edge too, even 1.25oz isn’t enough.

And at that ratio it’s hardly the bargain it’s supposed to be. I won’t be buying it again. Gold Class is a better soap for me at a similar price point. The real bargain wash is TW Ice. Slick, cheap and it refreshes a tired lsp.
 
Well, you guys have taken it out of consideration for me, so thanks for posting about it. Sheesh, if *GOLD CLASS* of all things is *better* anyhow... :rolleyes: Heh heh, I rank GC right with Westleys, for that quality I`d rather smell the scent of TW ZipWax.
 
I`m a bit worried too now that I`ve got a fresh gallon sitting in my garage. I`d only heard rave reviews in the past.....
 
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