RaskyR1
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Haven't tried that one yet but would expect similar results. Obviously I would test it first, but it should be fine.
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Matte paint care
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Haven't tried that one yet but would expect similar results. Obviously I would test it first, but it should be fine.
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XxBoostinxX
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I wonder what a non abrasive paint cleaner would do to matte paint? Has anyone tried it?
RDKC
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I've been curious about this for a while too but never found much info. I've thought about spraying the Ford in a flat color but unsure if I want to.
I have what may be a dumb question... why exactly aren't you supposed to polish matte paint?
I have what may be a dumb question... why exactly aren't you supposed to polish matte paint?
mjlinane
My name is Mike
per Mercedes Benz: "RULES" for caring for a matte finish MB:
- Has a soft Matte-effect finish instead of traditional gloss
- Matte effect is entirely in the Clearcoat.
- The other paint layers are identical to traditional gloss finish
- More Durable than traditional finishes
- No Wax, Polishes, Sealers – these can damage the finish.
- Improper care can cause shiny or bright spots, these cannot be removed mechanically
(e.g., by polishing)
- Damage can only be repaired by reapplying Matte Clearcoat
- Blending and spot repairs generally result in unacceptable appearance, so Matte Clearcoat
must be applied edge-to-edge on the affected panel(s)
Routine Washing
- Wash Magno Matte paint by hand only
- An automatic car wash can cause uneven shiny spots
- For routine washing, use Mercedes-Benz Car Shampoo (Part# A001 986 41 71 10) or
other mild soap
- Use only a soft clean sponge or microfiber cloth
- Always use plenty of water.
- Avoid washing in direct sunlight or when paintwork is warm
- Dry vehicle using a Chamois or microfiber cloth to avoid water spots
Difficult Soils
- Pre-soak difficult soils to loosen and soften
- A soft bristle toothbrush can be used gently if necessary
- A pressure washer can help remove stubborn soils
- Remove insects with Mercedes-Benz Insect Remover (Part# A002 986 11 71 11)
- Remove Tar and Tar Stains with Mercedes-Benz Tar Remover (Part# A001 986 40 71)
- Use VM&P Naphtha to remove tree resins, fuel stains and other difficult soils
(Commercially available at hardware and paint stores as a type of paint thinner)
- Use Silicone Remover for waxes, oils and greases (Commercially available at auto body
paint stores)
No other products should be used on Magno Matte Paint
Precautions
- Never rub or scrub the paint surface
- Avoid Paint cleaners and harsh detergents
- Remove any contaminants immediately
- Use care to keep oils and greases off the finish
- Never allow adhesive stickers, tape or magnets on the finish
- Avoid brushes, terrycloth, wash mitts or other rough items.
- Never use car wax, car polish, or paint sealant
- Never use rubbing compound, clay bar, sandpaper or any abrasive items
- Never perform any polishing or other mechanical operations
- Be sure to address any soiling or paint faults promptly to avoid damage
- Use approved fender covers, and don’t allow them to rub or move against the paint
- Avoid letting anything touch the paint – colleagues, clothing, papers, etc.
As it was an extremely expensive option on MBs at least and do not want to make an equally expensive mistake, So I stick with these. So, no clay.
Polishing will add sheen. As noted above, the MB I care for has a couple of shiny spots which are very obvious. The local Audi dealer had an A7 damaged just pulling the plastics off.
- Has a soft Matte-effect finish instead of traditional gloss
- Matte effect is entirely in the Clearcoat.
- The other paint layers are identical to traditional gloss finish
- More Durable than traditional finishes
- No Wax, Polishes, Sealers – these can damage the finish.
- Improper care can cause shiny or bright spots, these cannot be removed mechanically
(e.g., by polishing)
- Damage can only be repaired by reapplying Matte Clearcoat
- Blending and spot repairs generally result in unacceptable appearance, so Matte Clearcoat
must be applied edge-to-edge on the affected panel(s)
Routine Washing
- Wash Magno Matte paint by hand only
- An automatic car wash can cause uneven shiny spots
- For routine washing, use Mercedes-Benz Car Shampoo (Part# A001 986 41 71 10) or
other mild soap
- Use only a soft clean sponge or microfiber cloth
- Always use plenty of water.
- Avoid washing in direct sunlight or when paintwork is warm
- Dry vehicle using a Chamois or microfiber cloth to avoid water spots
Difficult Soils
- Pre-soak difficult soils to loosen and soften
- A soft bristle toothbrush can be used gently if necessary
- A pressure washer can help remove stubborn soils
- Remove insects with Mercedes-Benz Insect Remover (Part# A002 986 11 71 11)
- Remove Tar and Tar Stains with Mercedes-Benz Tar Remover (Part# A001 986 40 71)
- Use VM&P Naphtha to remove tree resins, fuel stains and other difficult soils
(Commercially available at hardware and paint stores as a type of paint thinner)
- Use Silicone Remover for waxes, oils and greases (Commercially available at auto body
paint stores)
No other products should be used on Magno Matte Paint
Precautions
- Never rub or scrub the paint surface
- Avoid Paint cleaners and harsh detergents
- Remove any contaminants immediately
- Use care to keep oils and greases off the finish
- Never allow adhesive stickers, tape or magnets on the finish
- Avoid brushes, terrycloth, wash mitts or other rough items.
- Never use car wax, car polish, or paint sealant
- Never use rubbing compound, clay bar, sandpaper or any abrasive items
- Never perform any polishing or other mechanical operations
- Be sure to address any soiling or paint faults promptly to avoid damage
- Use approved fender covers, and don’t allow them to rub or move against the paint
- Avoid letting anything touch the paint – colleagues, clothing, papers, etc.
As it was an extremely expensive option on MBs at least and do not want to make an equally expensive mistake, So I stick with these. So, no clay.
Polishing will add sheen. As noted above, the MB I care for has a couple of shiny spots which are very obvious. The local Audi dealer had an A7 damaged just pulling the plastics off.
Accumulator
Well-known member
Am I wrong to assume that MB's recommendations would be applicable to aftermarket matte-paint systems? I'm thinking about the matte/satin/etc. paints used on Hot Rods and Customs.
Not sure why they'd say to not use wax/etc. as I've LSPed matte/satin paints back in the day and it only imparted a very sutle sheen, sure didn't "gloss it up" to an appreciable extent. I wasn't as obsessive about marring back then, never thought about trying to correct it.
Not sure why they'd say to not use wax/etc. as I've LSPed matte/satin paints back in the day and it only imparted a very sutle sheen, sure didn't "gloss it up" to an appreciable extent. I wasn't as obsessive about marring back then, never thought about trying to correct it.
512detail
New member
Matte is honestly quite intimidating to me personally. ..
Im enjoying what celeste dettaglio matte does, no gloss but adds richness or sheen, if you will.
I don't know that it has carnauba in it or what but I'm liking it on my test matte vinyl piece (going strong now at 3 weeks)
edit: From ACC Site : "Celeste Dettaglio is about delivering a superior soft serve, simply brilliant paste wax, pure white 6 times refined Brazilian Grade A carnauba the freshest and finest quality combined with natures most refined oils to deliver a soft paste wax that is nothing short of heavenly"
ok so now im confused but this stuff simply works- although I like the idea of permanon matte better for safety reasons alone (as mentioned before)
Im enjoying what celeste dettaglio matte does, no gloss but adds richness or sheen, if you will.
I don't know that it has carnauba in it or what but I'm liking it on my test matte vinyl piece (going strong now at 3 weeks)
edit: From ACC Site : "Celeste Dettaglio is about delivering a superior soft serve, simply brilliant paste wax, pure white 6 times refined Brazilian Grade A carnauba the freshest and finest quality combined with natures most refined oils to deliver a soft paste wax that is nothing short of heavenly"
ok so now im confused but this stuff simply works- although I like the idea of permanon matte better for safety reasons alone (as mentioned before)
Accumulator
Well-known member
I wish they'd replace the goofy hyperbole with more informative product info. "Soft serve" indeed....
512detail
New member
Yea its funny all that narcissistic info then finally Real product info
How about cg explain why this nuba is matte safe would be nice.
Perhaps they have elsewhere
and Do Not let it sit 20 mins....BAD idea....around 10 mins has worked best for me so far (and it beaded like crazy even at a 5 min cure time too)
How about cg explain why this nuba is matte safe would be nice.
Perhaps they have elsewhere
and Do Not let it sit 20 mins....BAD idea....around 10 mins has worked best for me so far (and it beaded like crazy even at a 5 min cure time too)
nothingface5384
New member
I have yet to do anything with matt paint but I use it in my silver car which isn't glossy by any means
Accumulator
Well-known member
Eh, IMO matte and silver are completely different. Back in the '70s a pal of mine painted his Nova in *matte silver*, which was a really different, and IMO cool, look. He used the...uhm..oh [shoot] I forget...?TR3 Resin stuff?...on it and that gave it just a slight sheen but not enough to stop ya from thinking "that's a *really* different paint on there!".
512detail- Your description of how the Celeste Dettaglio stuff is working sounds like what I remember, only with a bit more sheen (maybe from the carnauba).
512detail
New member
That's why i asked for a pic. I wanna see this so we can make a better recommendation for him.
nothingface5384
New member
So guess when it comes to paint correction in matte finishes, we are simply screwed..or find a glaze that has no gloss properties
Buff Matte Paint: What happens when polish meets Matte?
Accumulator
Well-known member
Heh heh, this sounds like another reason why Marring-free Wash Techniques are perhaps the most important aspect of detailing
rlmccarty2000
Active member
I remember when I first saw the MB matte finish. I thought it was really nice. At that time I never thought about repairing a scratch. Now I think I would stay away from matte paint and probably go for the vinyl matte stuff that can be replaced or use a heat gun on the self healing stuff. A repaint is just too big of an expense and hassle.