M21 VS Poly-seal
- Thread starter busyguy
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jeeze!! i can be slow sometimes...lol.
I think the lightbulb just went off...
So as long as a car has no major swirls etc, you can use Poly Seal and ONLY Poly Seal.... Is that correct? Therefore, on a newer car which has been somewhat cared for, a PC random orbit and some poly seal will do everthing needed for a great final look?
Another thing i don't understand is why people use so many different "last steps". If poly seal (or m21) is such a great product, why would one need to put something on top of it? Isn't there a prodcut that you can just put on and have great results with, without having to do it TWICE? Sorry for my newbness, just trying to grasp this!
Scottwax- Is the 83 the best choice for a corrector before the polyseal? Or is there a better product you recomend? Off what your saying, i would only need
83-heavy swirls etc
polyseal- fine polish/final protection
m21- why if polyseal is great?
It seems like i'm just replacing the m80 with polyseal, but the steps stay the same...right?
I think the lightbulb just went off...
So as long as a car has no major swirls etc, you can use Poly Seal and ONLY Poly Seal.... Is that correct? Therefore, on a newer car which has been somewhat cared for, a PC random orbit and some poly seal will do everthing needed for a great final look?
Another thing i don't understand is why people use so many different "last steps". If poly seal (or m21) is such a great product, why would one need to put something on top of it? Isn't there a prodcut that you can just put on and have great results with, without having to do it TWICE? Sorry for my newbness, just trying to grasp this!
Scottwax- Is the 83 the best choice for a corrector before the polyseal? Or is there a better product you recomend? Off what your saying, i would only need
83-heavy swirls etc
polyseal- fine polish/final protection
m21- why if polyseal is great?
It seems like i'm just replacing the m80 with polyseal, but the steps stay the same...right?
Most of the sealants you are talking about will look great by themselves and don't "need" a topper. The problem comes with the fact that great isn't good enough for most autopians (myself included). I only top to get the looks exactly where I want. I think since poli-seal is a newer product their is little real world info on it's durability. I have a sample that came with my a ONR and am waiting until the spring to try it out. Winter is too harsh on my car to personally "test" a new sealant.
busyguy said:
If you are looking for all-in-one product I don't know whether Poly Seal will do what you are looking for as I have never checked it out but while you are checking it out you might want to consider Klasse All-In-One too. I have absolute zero personal experience with it but have heard nice things about it.
busyguy said:
Many people put just sealant and are done with it. I don't know all reasons why one would want to top sealant with wax. I assume one of them might have to do with increased protection, and one I know for sure is that people use it in attempt to achieve that look they want.
busyguy said:
Are your swirls that heavy to require #83? Without seeing pics of your swirls tough to say but if they are not and that was my car I would start with something less aggressive first. As I am a newb #80 would be my first bet and only after I see results.
Gottabekin
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sorry to hi-jack the thread, but I want to know if Poli-Seal needs any cure time? Can I use OCW or AW right after Poli-Seal?
Here is my suggestion to you: Go to Kragen's, grab a bottle of Swirl Remover 2.0 (M09), and try it.
It is my understanding that is least aggressive product in Meguiar's lineup, less aggressive than 80 and 83 are (especially 83). They describe it as "... deep gloss cleaner/polish. It removes fine scratches and swirl marks, while providing a dark, dramatic shine."
That will tell you do you need anything more aggressive. And if it takes care of you then follow it up with #21 and you are done, you can take time to explore your other options.
It is my understanding that is least aggressive product in Meguiar's lineup, less aggressive than 80 and 83 are (especially 83). They describe it as "... deep gloss cleaner/polish. It removes fine scratches and swirl marks, while providing a dark, dramatic shine."
That will tell you do you need anything more aggressive. And if it takes care of you then follow it up with #21 and you are done, you can take time to explore your other options.
busyguy said:
Of the products you mentioned, #83 will correct the most and as long as you work it properly, any very minor hazing (if any) will easily be removed using Poli-Seal and a polishing pad. Optimum Compound is comparible to #83 and for most people, easier to work with (no dusting).
You don't *need* to put anything over Poli-seal but with the products you listed #21 would go after it assuming you want to use all or most of the products you have on hand.
thesacrifice
New member
No, Poli-Seal is a sealant, it will last faaaaaar beyond 1-2 weeks.
Gottabekin
New member
CleanFreak2 said:
Justin did that, he did 75% poli seal and 25% OP. According to him so far, durability is at least a couple weeks.
Kin
Envious Eric
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WHY?????????
how do you know you are finishing off with the sealant and not the polish....IMO, it just doesn't make sense
how do you know you are finishing off with the sealant and not the polish....IMO, it just doesn't make sense
great... well, one more question!!!
Is there a place on this site where i can sell or trade extra products?
I just bought 64 oz of the M21 and would't mind trading a small amount for some polyseal, or even selling it by 10 oz so others could try it.
I also bought the edge 2000 kit.. I know i'll need to keep the orange light cutting pad, as well as the polishing and finishing pad.. The other two stronger cutting pads will proabably never be used by me though....right?
Is there a place on this site where i can sell or trade extra products?
I just bought 64 oz of the M21 and would't mind trading a small amount for some polyseal, or even selling it by 10 oz so others could try it.
I also bought the edge 2000 kit.. I know i'll need to keep the orange light cutting pad, as well as the polishing and finishing pad.. The other two stronger cutting pads will proabably never be used by me though....right?
atticdog
New member
sure you can send them to me