M105 question

I'm starting to wonder if M105 on an orange pad with a PC is what I'll need to get the swirls out of my Grand Prix and my Mom's Suburban. SSR2.5 and an orange pad barely touched them last year. I was going to get some IP and FPII but from the sounds of things those will barely touch GM clear too. Might be good for my sisters Honda but that's about it.
 
Chris223, you might want to consider using a white LC foam instead of the orange. M105 has so much correcting power that changing to a white pad won't change it's cutting power much, but it will allow it to finish down much better. Orange foam pads don't finish very well, no matter what polish you use with em. M105 is capable of leaving a very good finish as long as it's not hindered by what pad you use it with.
 
SuperBee364 said:
Chris223, you might want to consider using a white LC foam instead of the orange. M105 has so much correcting power that changing to a white pad won't change it's cutting power much, but it will allow it to finish down much better.
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Couldn't agree more. #105 is significantly more aggressive than 2.5 is. SIGNIFICANTLY!



I rarely have to step up to wool with #105, even on ceramiclear paints, usually a yellow Meguiars polishing pad and #105 are enough to correct the paint and leave a nearly hologram free finish.
 
hmm, good advice. It may be a while, I'm not a pro by any means and I wont need a whole bottle of it, I'll probably wait until I see a member here selling a used bottle or something. What about like #80 though or any of the other Megs polishes, anything else that can take swirls out of GM clear with a PC that you'd recommend?
 
SuperBee364 said:
Chris223, you might want to consider using a white LC foam instead of the orange. M105 has so much correcting power that changing to a white pad won't change it's cutting power much, but it will allow it to finish down much better. Orange foam pads don't finish very well, no matter what polish you use with em. M105 is capable of leaving a very good finish as long as it's not hindered by what pad you use it with.
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I +2 this, however, an orange pad finishes down fine with 105/PC, but I would start with the least aggressive pad first as 105 is AGGRESSIVE.



105 has changed my mind about corrective capabilities and efficiency regarding a PC.



I apply a bead to the section, PC on 6, work it in with considerable pressure until it starts to dry (2-3 passes), do a light pressure pass, and remove. Hit it with Ultrafina, wipe down with prepsol and WOW. Quickest combo on a PC, IMO.



I should make a quick video of this process.
 
NSXTASY said:
I +2 this, however, an orange pad finishes down fine with 105/PC, but I would start with the least aggressive pad first as 105 is AGGRESSIVE.



105 has changed my mind about corrective capabilities and efficiency regarding a PC.



I apply a bead to the section, PC on 6, work it in with considerable pressure until it starts to dry (2-3 passes), do a light pressure pass, and remove. Hit it with Ultrafina, wipe down with prepsol and WOW. Quickest combo on a PC, IMO.



I should make a quick video of this process.
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I would love to see that if you do make a vid. That'd be a great tutorial. I'm just worried about removing to much clear, so I've always been a little nervous using an abrasive polish.
 
Chris223 said:
hmm, good advice. It may be a while, I'm not a pro by any means and I wont need a whole bottle of it, I'll probably wait until I see a member here selling a used bottle or something. What about like #80 though or any of the other Megs polishes, anything else that can take swirls out of GM clear with a PC that you'd recommend?
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My current go to polishs are #80 and #84. 80 is great.... I love it. 84 seems to be finiky to how much product you put on and it gumming up but works great!
 
Chris223 said:
hmm, good advice. It may be a while, I'm not a pro by any means and I wont need a whole bottle of it, I'll probably wait until I see a member here selling a used bottle or something. What about like #80 though or any of the other Megs polishes, anything else that can take swirls out of GM clear with a PC that you'd recommend?
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Auto Detailing Solutions sells a 12 oz. sampler bottle you might want to try.
 
+2 for this idea.



That would be a great learning tool, NSX.





NSXTASY said:
I +2 this, however, an orange pad finishes down fine with 105/PC, but I would start with the least aggressive pad first as 105 is AGGRESSIVE.



105 has changed my mind about corrective capabilities and efficiency regarding a PC.



I apply a bead to the section, PC on 6, work it in with considerable pressure until it starts to dry (2-3 passes), do a light pressure pass, and remove. Hit it with Ultrafina, wipe down with prepsol and WOW. Quickest combo on a PC, IMO.



I should make a quick video of this process.
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NSXTASY said:
I +2 this, however, an orange pad finishes down fine with 105/PC, but I would start with the least aggressive pad first as 105 is AGGRESSIVE.



105 has changed my mind about corrective capabilities and efficiency regarding a PC.



I apply a bead to the section, PC on 6, work it in with considerable pressure until it starts to dry (2-3 passes), do a light pressure pass, and remove. Hit it with Ultrafina, wipe down with prepsol and WOW. Quickest combo on a PC, IMO.



I should make a quick video of this process.
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That's the money, right there.



I'd bet NSXTASY'S above process would work on about 98% of the cars a detailer would come across. It really does bring the PC back up to being an *effective* (and not just safe) polishing machine. Great process, man. IMHO, it should be *the* go-to process for the PC. The only drawback I could see to it would be M105's learning curve, but hopefully it's not that bad on a PC.



A video to help guys through 105's learning curve would be the proverbial icing.



Edit: I wonder if M95 might be a good (and possibly easier to use) alternative to 105? The additional working time might be a two-edged sword; easier to use because of the added working time, but it might cause people to work it (and remove more of their clear) more than what is necessary to achieve the correction needed.
 
Rob Tomlin said:
Sounds like I could have used m105 on my step dad's white Saturn this last weekend. :eek:
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Rob, you *need* a bottle of this stuff. I normally don't have much good to say about the majority of Maguairs products, but they have re-defined the compound polish category with M105. It is *the* product that all others will have to measure up against from now on. Truly a breakthrough product. A PITA (at least for me) to learn, and worth every minute.



IMHO, category champs:



Heavy Compound: M105, and possibly M95. Need to get a bottle of M95 still.



Medium Polish: SIP



Finishing Polish: PO106FF, UF



Jeweling Polish: PO85RD, FPII (for soft clears)
 
So far, I've been able to get FPII and 85RD to finish down better than UF, but UF does do a very good job of being a cross-category polish; finishing and jeweling. It corrects much more than 85Rd or FPII, and finishes off almost as well.
 
SuperBee364 said:
Rob, you *need* a bottle of this stuff. I normally don't have much good to say about the majority of Maguairs products, but they have re-defined the compound polish category with M105. It is *the* product that all others will have to measure up against from now on. Truly a breakthrough product. A PITA (at least for me) to learn, and worth every minute.
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The way I see it, I have cost you a few bucks, so it's your turn to return the favor! ;)



I will be adding m105 to my next order.
 
Rob Tomlin said:
The way I see it, I have cost you a few bucks, so it's your turn to return the favor! ;)



I will be adding m105 to my next order.
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LoL, can't argue with that. Let us know what you think of the 105 when you get a chance to use it.
 
SuperBee364 said:
LoL, can't argue with that. Let us know what you think of the 105 when you get a chance to use it.
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Definitely.



I have a big detailing job this weekend (a dark green metallic Denali) that has some nasty swirls in it, but I won't have the 105 by then. :(



Hopefully the PFW and SIP combo will work good enough, though I doubt I will get 100% correction.
 
I ordered my 105 from ADS, and since they're in the Phoenix area (Chandler, to be exact), it only took UPS two days to get here. I'm thinkin' that Riverside would be a two day zone for them, too.
 
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