M105 issues

I havent used 105 on the car yet just 205 with yellow followed by 205 on grey 6.5 pads.





I am hesitant to break out 105 at this point as I know the car has thin paint from the factory and the results I am getting are about 90% correction. I will be starting with 105 whenever its time to polish again. I am also going to ditch the yellow pads and only used them as someone here brought them up.



I figured until I actually have a way to inspect the car other than sunlight 205 will do. Honestly car looks great and its more or less me wanting to remove whatever these defects may be rather than an apperance thing. They really arent something you can see without some sort of inspection lighting. I just dont want to repolish the same area again with something more aggressive because I do not yet have any idea how aggressive m105 is compared to the light polishes ive always used. Ive never needed anything else until this point and I feel like i've done my share of polishing this round.



Ill consider this a part of learning and come prepared for battle next time.
 
Redem- IF the paint is thin, then I'd rather use M105 on a zero-cut pad than *anything* on the LC yellow (for the reason SuperBee364 and I have mentioned). But it's understandable that you'd rather not use that, and so I'd just stick with polishing/finishing pads and the M205.



You might also consider Optimum's Hyper Compound, which is a lot more effective than M205 (correction-wise) while being a whole lot milder than M105 (and *MUCH* more user-friendly, like you can't imagine until you try it).
 
M105 and a finishing pad did nothing on the roof for the swirls. M205 on orange and 2 passes took out 90% of the visable swirls on the roof which is the worst panel. The roof is the worst as far as I can tell and one pass on orange/205 has been taking care of the rest of the car besides hood.





105 on a finishing pad did not make much on an impact on the swirls. I figure 205 on orange is less aggressive than 105 on white? Should I be stepping up polishes before pads for future details? I went with more aggressive pads because thats what I was told here and I figured the gap between 105 and 205 is much larger than a pad change.
 
105 is seriously not that aggressive on a foam pad. I can understanding being cautious, but this is being a bit overly cautious, IMO.



On many cars, 105 on a yellow pad doesn't even have enough cut for my liking. It's not fast enough of cut for you to do damage with one pass.
 
Redem said:
M105 and a finishing pad did nothing on the roof for the swirls. M205 on orange and 2 passes took out 90% of the visable swirls on the roof which is the worst panel. The roof is the worst as far as I can tell and one pass on orange/205 has been taking care of the rest of the car besides hood...
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OK, that sounds good. Others seem to do better with M105/finishing than your or I do.





I figure 205 on orange is less aggressive than 105 on white? Should I be stepping up polishes before pads for future details? I went with more aggressive pads because thats what I was told here and I figured the gap between 105 and 205 is much larger than a pad change.
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I generally prefer stronger products instead of more aggressive pads, but that's just me. Based on the roof, it kinda sounds to me like you oughta just stick with the M205 for now.



Just FWIW, when I want to do serious correction with a foam pad and M105, I like the Meguiar's burgundy foam.



If you want more than M205, but less than the M105, I'd sure look into that Optimum Hyper Compound.
 
105 and surbuf = getting almost everything out in one pass.

then follow up with 105 on orange pad (very light pressure), then 205 on white pad



On those sections that are not clearing up with 105 with orange/yellow (I hate that yellow brick pad and havent used on in about 3 years), then step up to surbuf, or a rotary with wool pad (if you are up for it)



My typical routine is

105/surbuf

menzerna 203/hyro tang or white

106 or 85rd/black



on some paints pad combos vary obviously
 
Accumulator said:
OK, that sounds good. Others seem to do better with M105/finishing than your or I do.









I generally prefer stronger products instead of more aggressive pads, but that's just me. Based on the roof, it kinda sounds to me like you oughta just stick with the M205 for now.



Just FWIW, when I want to do serious correction with a foam pad and M105, I like the Meguiar's burgundy foam.



If you want more than M205, but less than the M105, I'd sure look into that Optimum Hyper Compound.
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Accumulator, you are referring to the one in the spray bottle? I've been thinking about buying one of the new Optimum Compounds, but can't decide between the Hyper Compound (spray) or the Compound II.
 
SuperBee364 said:
Accumulator, you are referring to the one in the spray bottle? I've been thinking about buying one of the new Optimum Compounds, but can't decide between the Hyper Compound (spray) or the Compound II.
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Yeah, I have the spray. Though mine never really "sprays" right, at least not like it does in those demonstration videos :think: I haven't tried the CompoundII, but other than its lack of aggressiveness the Hyper is one of those products I can't say enough good things about. Well...OK, I could gripe that it's also an incredible PIA to clean out of pads, but I don't mind that since it's so easy to use in every other respect.
 
I've been checking out those optimum polishes for awhile. Their other products impress me and I should have ordered some of the spray polishes to try with my powerclean order.





Cars paint is done and it was done with 205 on orange and white pads depending on panel. I may take a few pictures but it honestly looks like every other white car posted here. Once I finish the trim and everything ill try upload a few shots here so others can hopefully help me with my amature work.



How much do I need to dilute optimums APC to use on paint?



Thanks to everyone here that has helped me. I would be lost without some of these suggestions...
 
That sounds great. Hopefully you are starting to see the differences of pad and pressure choices on your paint type.



What are you going to be using powerclean for? Label calls for 3:1 for just about everything. You can stretch this and still have it effective - 8:1 to 12:1 for bug and gunk duty. 3:1 or straight up for the worst of things.
 
Redem- Speaking as a guy who has a white, uhm...."driver" :o I'd say that if it looks OK to you then it looks fine and I wouldn't go nuts over the correction. I generally use PowerClean straight and use other stuff when I don't need that kind of oomph.
 
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