Little Klasse marathon

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nEJIbMEHb

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Hi!



Just finished my experiment with layering Klasse SG. I put 10 layers of Klasse GS on my roommate's Lexus LX470 with 1 hour interval between layers. I used damp/dry MF buffing technique.

Here is results:

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Don't want to be a party pooper, because I see from your pics that the car looks great....however, most on Autopia would concur that a minimum of 24 hours for the polymer to cure and harden is required. Anything less, and part of the previous layer may be removed.



Having said that, do you think that what you did was as effectively as, say, layering 10 coats over 10 days?
 
...however, most on Autopia would concur that a minimum of 24 hours for the polymer to cure and harden is required.
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That is why I called it "layering experiment". I know about autopian recommendations to leave KSG overnight to harden, but I decided to try different technique. I used microfiber applicator damped with KSG (not with water, as it was recommended) and used much more product than usual for each coat. I was able to see film right after application. Residue also was clearly visible. Cure time for each coat was around 1 hour. It was enough to form hard residue. I don't know if it is typical behavior of KSG. I never tried this technique before. But it worked fine in my case. One more thing I must mention - humidity was around 20% and temperature was in upper 80's.

Anything less, and part of the previous layer may be removed.
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I tried autopian KSG technique before on the similar Lexus LX. (Damp foam applicator, small amount of product, 24h cure time) It looked just the same.

Having said that, do you think that what you did was as effectively as, say, layering 10 coats over 10 days?
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I could say that. Probably I was removing part of previous layer by allowing such little cure time, but difference between fully bonded KSG and "partially bonded" is not that noticeable.
 
Hmmm...sounds like it worked out really well for you.



However, if you're willing to experiment, might I suggest one more? Do the same thing on a black (or very dark) car. The Sg problems are usually not visible on light coloured cars, so I wonder if your experiment would be as successful with a black car.



I know that if I ever applied enough SG to see it haze, I'll never get it off. What I do at this point is use AIO to remove it and start over. :o



Anyway, just thought I would throw it out there.
 
Seems like "cure times" should different greatly from climate to climate. I'm sure 24 hours is much more than adequate. 95+ summertime temps should greatly expedite cure times.
 
you'll be surprised at how 3 coats over 3 days looks over 3 coats 20 minutes apart



you'll also find that after 4-5, you car actually starts to feel and smell like the polymer



kudo's for the research :up
 
nEJIbMEHb- Yes, sounds like a good, interesting experiment. Jason and I have also applied multiple coats of SG without waiting for the "24 hour curing". When you don't have the time, it DOES seem better than just doing one.



I BELIEVE that the "cure time" has to do with the polymers cross-linking and staying that way. The concern is that additional coats, applied as you did, will "unlink" the previously applied SG. I AM curious about whether or not this is a valid concern. Yes, someone with better knowledge of this stuff can probably explain it a LOT better than I can :o



I know you recognized that SOME of each preceding layer might have been removed. Hmmm... time will tell just what happened.



With ten (!) coats of SG on there, IF they really did layer/link/etc. then the paint should be protected for a LONG time. I don't know what your plans are, but IF you just washed the vehicle (no more SG, no wax toppers, etc.) it SHOULD last for well over six months. Claying, etc. shouldn't be a problem. The vehicle should still have that "Klassed feel" after the holidays.
 
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