Leather Masters Question

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DrewD

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Ok... I know I'm probably splitting hairs here... but I'm getting ready to do the full monty on my girlfriend's '95 black Camry. It's paint has never been taken care of properly, and needs a lot of TLC.

Should I:

1. Dawn wash
2. Clay Bar
<strong class='bbc'>3. Dawn Wash[/b]
4. AIO/SG/Blitz

-- or --

1. Dawn Wash
2. Clay Bar
<strong class='bbc'>3. Normal Wash[/b]
4. AIO/SG/Blitz

Thanks a bunch.
 
Well since you are using AIO, which as cleaning ability you could do this:



1. Normal Wash

2. Clay Bar

3. AIO/SG



or if you are really anal and want to be super through:



1. Dawn Wash

2 Clay Bar

3. Normal Wash

4. AIO/SG.
 
I always do dawn wash-clay-normal wash. I also rinse the car for a LONG time after both washes. The purpose of this is to get all the Dawn off my car. Becasue it is harsh , I like to make sure it's completely gone before I apply any sealants. I do the second normal wash for the same reason. I agree with Brad; it's probably not necessary- the extended rinse has probably removed and/or diluted all of the Dawn already. But I always do it, because it doesn't seem like it does any harm.
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Brad4rdHay [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>The second wash is a complete waste of time and car wash IMO. [/b]</blockquote>I see your point, but I always do a second wash when I am going to wax for no other reason than piece of mind. I just want to make sure I got any and all dirt off the surface before I seal it, as the saying goes "measure twice, cut once." As for the claying, I clay during the second wash, using the car wash as the lubricant. So here is my approach:
1) Dawn wash
2) Regular wash and clay at the same time
3)AIO/SG, and definitely top w/ Blitz!!

Best of luck Drew!! :xyxthumbs
 
your second choice is very safe.



But you could just wipe down the car with a wet MF to remove lubricant from claying.



Either way the AIO should also clean the paint with its chemical cleaners.



Happy Mardi Gras!
 
Thanks a bunch! I think I'll Dawn/Clay/Normal wash just to be on the safe side.



P.S. Has anybody else noticed how addictive car detailing can be? I've been lurking here for only about two weeks and I've already dropped close to $100 on stuff!!! :eek:
 
A second wash is not necessary but think about any residue you can possibly "trap" with Klasse. It will be in there for a long time. Also if you have hazing issues we won't be able to not blame it because you didn't rewash ;)
 
I think both camps, above, are right. It depends on whether you are going to be following the clay with a polish. If you are not going to follow the clay with a polish, then I would regular (car shampoo) wash. Otherwise, you will be applying sealant on top of whatever lube you used with the clay. I would not Dawn wash again, because it can leave a detergent film (I have actually experienced this).
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by DrewD [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>P.S. Has anybody else noticed how addictive car detailing can be? I've been lurking here for only about two weeks and I've already dropped close to $100 on stuff!!! :eek: [/b]</blockquote>
LOL... Don't worry. You aren't the only one. :p

Ohhh, and as the addiction lasts you start to buy even more stuff :eek:
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by DrewD [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Thanks a bunch! I think I'll Dawn/Clay/Normal wash just to be on the safe side.

P.S. Has anybody else noticed how addictive car detailing can be? I've been lurking here for only about two weeks and I've already dropped close to $100 on stuff!!! :eek: [/b]</blockquote>
I spent close to $1000 after I first got here....PC, Vac n Blo, all kinds of stuff. Money well spent. It is much more that just cleaning the car. Hate to get Zen on you guys, but detailing is just like meditating for me. I get so focused and in the "now".
 
The UPS guy visits my house daily! We're on a first name/birthday wishes basis... now, THAT is pitiful! Although David is a very nice guy (the UPS man)...heck, the dogs don't even bark at him anymore.



Regarding the wash/clay/wash issue, Dave C is right on the money (again). Wash the car with Dawn first, rinse it thoroughly and then bust out the clay before you dry it. The water on the car will help lubricate the clay (I usually dip the clay bar in a separate bucket of soapy water that I've mixed up for claying). Then once I've clayed the entire car, I normal wash and rinse it thoroughly when done.
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by geekysteve [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Regarding the wash/clay/wash issue, Dave C is right on the money (again). Wash the car with Dawn first, rinse it thoroughly and then bust out the clay before you dry it. The water on the car will help lubricate the clay (I usually dip the clay bar in a separate bucket of soapy water that I've mixed up for claying). Then once I've clayed the entire car, I normal wash and rinse it thoroughly when done. [/b]</blockquote>This thread ain't dying Steve!! Thanks for the kind words but actually I clay during the second wash using the wash soap as my lubricant, but I'm sure your plan works just as well.:xyxthumbs
 
Like many posters, above, I also like using an auto shampoo (Z7 in my case) as a lube for the clay. In addition to lubricating, I cannot help but believe that using a shampoo as a lube means you are giving the car an additional, very detailed wash. I also think it will tend to dissolve any junk the clay smooges off (yes, I made up that phrase -- I hereby declare that to "smooge off" means to remove by stickiness -- LOL)
 
Is the Protection cream really necessary? The descriptions are hazy to me.

I'm not certain if Vital is the only product needed for conditioning or if it's really necessary to follow up with the protection cream. Sounds like to me the protection cream is just an extra guard for stains but I want to make sure that it's not also necessary for conditioning.

Andy
 
Sorry, I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers.

If you check on that "other forum" for the same username you'll see I've long been a member of the detailing on-line forums. I run my own small detailing business as a "weekend warrior" here in Ohio. With the changes to the other forum I've found this place to be a much more pleasant place to read, lurk and get my detailing information from I just haven't really had the need to post anything yet.

I've been wanting to try out something different for leather and was just looking for clarification from anyone that might have used the product.

Andy
 
Andy,
Sorry I can't help you, as I have never used the Leather Master products.
However, I would like to welcome you to TID!
 

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AudiOn19s said:
Sorry, I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers.

If you check on that "other forum" for the same username you'll see I've long been a member of the detailing on-line forums. I run my own small detailing business as a "weekend warrior" here in Ohio. With the changes to the other forum I've found this place to be a much more pleasant place to read, lurk and get my detailing information from I just haven't really had the need to post anything yet.

I've been wanting to try out something different for leather and was just looking for clarification from anyone that might have used the product.

Andy
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Sorry.

Not a fan of the "other forum" and since it was your first post and you were asking about something they just started carrying, I thought you might have been shady. My apologies.
 
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