Layering Megs #7

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Lately I've been applying a layer of Megs #7 show car glaze underneath my final LSP. I don't know if it really helps much, but I want to use it up.



However, it seems to be affecting the durability of my wax (right now I'm using Souveran). This isn't really a problem right now since the weather is nice and Souveran is so easy to use. I don't mind waxing every two weeks when it's so easy.



I want to start experimenting with some of the Dodo waxes and I'm going to get their fantastic four kit so I can play with different combinations of hard and soft waxes.



I started thinking though....could I sove my durability problem if I apply the #7 in between the hard and soft wax? That way I will only have to re-apply the soft wax every other week?
 
I have never used Souveran, but 2 weeks doesn't seem to be completly inconsistent with reports (I would have said 4). I think #7 is likely to have some effect on durability, especially if you are "layering" it (if that's even possible). I gave up using #7 years ago because I didn't seem to be getting much bang for the effort. In your Dodo scenario, I would expect the #7 to remove some of the hard wax.
 
I know 2 weeks isn't bad for souveran. I was getting closer to 4 (as you guessed) on my old car (but I wasn't using #7). That led me to the conclusion that #7 was affecting my durability.



I also get what you're saying about getting 'much bang for the effort'. However, I just want to use up what I have. So even if I'm getting *SOME* bang, it's worth it. Besides, I am seeing a noticeable difference with the #7. It seems to make the paint warmer and deeper looking.



In my experience, at first, applying #7 didn't seem to make any noticeable difference. However, I found that if I applied it, and then left it to 'cure' for an hour or so, i could really see a noticeable difference.



Whether or not that difference is enough to make me drastically increase my waxing frequency will be a decision I make when this bottle is gone.
 
#7 is a pure polish and should not affect a LSP. #7 will not layer upon itself. Call Mcguiar's Customer Service line for questions on their products.
 
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I know 2 weeks isn't bad for souveran. I was getting closer to 4 (as you guessed) on my old car (but I wasn't using #7). That led me to the conclusion that #7 was affecting my durability.



I also get what you're saying about getting 'much bang for the effort'. However, I just want to use up what I have. So even if I'm getting *SOME* bang, it's worth it. Besides, I am seeing a noticeable difference with the #7. It seems to make the paint warmer and deeper looking.



In my experience, at first, applying #7 didn't seem to make any noticeable difference. However, I found that if I applied it, and then left it to 'cure' for an hour or so, i could really see a noticeable difference.



Whether or not that difference is enough to make me drastically increase my waxing frequency will be a decision I make when this bottle is gone.



I think your not supposed to let #7 dry or "cure" at all. In fact I believe it's a massage type product that you remove before drying. I apply to a panel, then wipe off immediately.
 
Two weeks seems a tad short for life of a lsp. For some higher end work, we lay a sealant down then, three to four layers of Carnuba. I hope they last more than a few weeks.
 
Saleenman607 said:
I think your not supposed to let #7 dry or "cure" at all. In fact I believe it's a massage type product that you remove before drying. I apply to a panel, then wipe off immediately.



Correct. You should apply and wipe off before it drys.
 
MDRX8 said:
Correct. You should apply and wipe off before it drys.



Sorry, I should have been more clear.



I applied it properly. I applied it to the paint using a MF applicator and worked to get it very very thin. Within minutes I can actually see it start to dry. I buffed with a Cobra Deluxe JR towel very lightly.



Even though I purposely applied the glaze VERY thin, my goal here is to try and remove the product in layers. Each buffing pass removes just a little bit more of the drying residue. Eventually I was left with a finished surface.



It's at this point where I didn't notice any immediate difference. But after a short time it appeared that the glaze "cured" (maybe that's the wrong word) and gave the paint a more vibrant glow.



Anyway. Back to my original question. I'm going to be getting the Dodo Fantasic Four Kit (Supernatural, Blue Velvet, Purple Haze, DW Hard). And I plan to layer the soft waxes on top of the hard ones.



My question is, can I put the #7 in between the hard and soft waxes?
 
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Sorry, I should have been more clear.



I applied it properly. I applied it to the paint using a MF applicator and worked to get it very very thin. Within minutes I can actually see it start to dry. I buffed with a Cobra Deluxe JR towel very lightly.



Even though I purposely applied the glaze VERY thin, my goal here is to try and remove the product in layers. Each buffing pass removes just a little bit more of the drying residue. Eventually I was left with a finished surface.



It's at this point where I didn't notice any immediate difference. But after a short time it appeared that the glaze "cured" (maybe that's the wrong word) and gave the paint a more vibrant glow.



Anyway. Back to my original question. I'm going to be getting the Dodo Fantasic Four Kit (Supernatural, Blue Velvet, Purple Haze, DW Hard). And I plan to layer the soft waxes on top of the hard ones.



My question is, can I put the #7 in between the hard and soft waxes?



Sure, you can do whatever you want, but IMO/IME, (and believe me, all I do other than hacking up a golf course, is detail my garage queen) #7 would be a waste of effort/time/product. Up to a point, layering can be a product of diminishing returns. I once applied 6 layers of souveran on my hood, trunk lid and spoiler over a 7 day period. I really couldn't tell much of a difference to tell you the truth.......

But hey.....try it yourself, and good luck
 
Saleenman607 said:
I once applied 6 layers of souveran on my hood, trunk lid and spoiler over a 7 day period. I really couldn't tell much of a difference to tell you the truth.......

But hey.....try it yourself, and good luck





Well with all of the oils in PS, even a second coat is pretty much a waste of time.
 
The showcar glaze is just oils that will saturate the paint, its not going to make the surface more receptive to waxes.
 
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