Layering different waxes?

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chris182

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As the title really.



Is it worth layering different waxes to try and combine the aspects of both?



For example, using say, collinite for durability, and then something else over it for a wetter look.



I`m on about natural waxes, not synthetics.



Thanks in advance.
 
Collinite will be your most durable, so start with that as a base. Next in the durability dept. would be good old Meg's #16. After that, they all get to be pretty much the same with little differences here and there, with Souveran being the icing on the cake for pure looks.
 
JDookie said:
Collinite will be your most durable, so start with that as a base. Next in the durability dept. would be good old Meg's #16. After that, they all get to be pretty much the same with little differences here and there, with Souveran being the icing on the cake for pure looks.
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I agree with JDookie.....Sort of like diminishing hardness,with the armor on the bottom. Remember to wait a suitable time between layers. Your wax has to have time to "cure" in each layer. Your idea sounds ike a plan.....:xyxthumbs
 
The question that needs to be asked and contemplated is, does the layering of waxes do any good? I mean sure you can do it but is there any benefit?



It is my understanding that it does not, not based on opinion but rather the science of one solvent based wax diminishing the first wax applied. So prep the finish properly and then use the wax of your choice.



Anthony
 
Strictly for looks,perhaps try using a single, low solvent based wax ( P21s-S100-Souveran) via spit shining : a process that could help block the removal of the previous layer of the wax by the new one, amy do the trick. It's a long, somewhat tedious process which definitely isn't efficient in a time sensitive detailing-as-a-profession environment.



This would all take place once the LSP ( sealant of choice) providing more durablity is applied first.
 
I quite often do different layers of waxes when playing around seeing what looks best.



Off late I have had a Clearkote Carnuba Moose wax base over the sealant and then playing with Souveran, Signature and P21s to see which looks best.
 
Just for kicks, I did a spit-shine application of Souveran over Collinite 476S and to my surprise, yeah, it *did* look better. Not just my imagination either, as somebody who didn't know I was gonna do it said "hey, what'd you do to the Volvo, it looks different" (they'd seen it after the Collinite).



I have no decent, objective explanation for it though...I would've figured that with the Collinite between the paint and my eyes the Souveran couldn't/wouldn't add anything. But I must be missing something....maybe it added some "shine" to the Collinite, enough to "improve" the look even though it was one more thing between the paint and my eyes :nixweiss



I *am* certain that the solvents in Souveran were *not* strong enough to compromise the Collinite though. It kept beading for many months (the famous "Collinite beading"), long after the Souveran would've been gone.
 
I don't like doing that, especially with quality waxes. It may be possible to get good results, however, I've seen the best results from consistent use of a single wax as opposed to going in between two or more different waxes on top of each other.
 
Well a few different opinions there then.



At the moment i have AIO+SGx3+Collinite 476, now i know collinite isn`t supposed to be the wettest looking wax, so i was thinking of someting over that.



I was thinking along the lines of Accumulator, i.e. can one wax change the appearance of whats underneath it?



I would like to try different waxes for looks, but dont want to have to start from scratch each time, what with it being a daily driver, and having no garage. I just dont have the time to do all those steps, along with the `wait` times between.



Maybe i`ll just give it a go anyway.
 
I thought a few weeks ago some guys on here were talking about how layering waxes is just an impossible "dream" because the layers are so soft that putting one wax over another will just remove the under-layer. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
 
magictouch24 said:
I thought a few weeks ago some guys on here were talking about how layering waxes is just an impossible "dream" because the layers are so soft that putting one wax over another will just remove the under-layer. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
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Well, and this is just a thought, Collinite surely cant be `that` soft, or else now does it last so long?
 
Oh oh.....I am one of those radicals that don't subcribe to that notion. Pure (meaning authentic, non cleaner and non synthetic) waxes will layer. The best results I've seen has come from putting on sparingly a coating at a time, and allowing a couple of days or up to a week or more for the fresh wax to dry and cure a little before adding more wax.



IMO it will deliver a significant result if done properly.
 
Anthony Orosco said:
The question that needs to be asked and contemplated is, does the layering of waxes do any good? I mean sure you can do it but is there any benefit?



As the thickness of the wax increases, the filling/hiding characteristics of the wax does too The reflectivity also increases.



It is my understanding that it does not, not based on opinion but rather the science of one solvent based wax diminishing the first wax applied. So prep the finish properly and then use the wax of your choice.



Anthony
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If the bottom layer is "cured", or the solvent content has evaporated out, then a light layer can be applied to the top if that new layer is not rubbed in too long or hard, and is thin. The next layers should not be put on so heavy that any thick new layer contains so much volume of solvent as to allow any of the previous levels to dissolve or slough off. Dont attempt to layer in the sun....;):xyxthumbs
 
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