Klasse SG hard to remove and dull finish

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I have a BMW Z4 that is jet black and only 8 months old. I washed the car real good and there is nothing on the paint and the car looks brand new. So, I apply my Klasse AIO and the car looks slick and feels slicker than snot. I get the Klasse SG and start the process and I noticed that it was not coming off as easy as the AIO, that it was dull to the touch, and it looked like it was streaked.:shocked



Is the SG suppose to be hard to remove or did I just put it on to thick?



Are you suppose to AIO every time you wash? or will the AIO take off the SG?



I'm trying to get this right because I have 3 other cars I want to get done and wasted effort is no fun. Thanks in advance.



Allen
 
Have you read about SG on here? There are about a thousand threads on it. SG is not like AIO. Its a very tricky product to use that is simple once you get used to it. You have to apply it super thin. I mean so thin that if you can see it then you've used too much. Do some research on it. There are some good application threads here. Search under "Klasse Application" or "Klasse Hazing" or something like that. The problem you are having is because you most likely put it on too thick and didn't get it buffed off.



AIO will remove everything on the surface right down to the clear coat. It won't remove clear coat, but it will remove all the SG and wax you have on your car. Use that only when you want to start over.
 
Welcome to Autopia. Rather than starting over, you may want to go over the whole care with a quick detailer to get out the hazing. The same thing happened to me when I first used SG. Now, I apply it thinly and works like a charm...Andrew
 
Are you using clean MicroFiber cloths? I found this to be very important when removing SG. Spritz the cloth with a QD or water. Buff with a dry MF.
 
Sonus will not remove any of your KSG. If you're having trouble applying KSG, it's a simple matter of applying too much. Use a terry cloth or microfiber applicator to apply KSG, not foam. Apply no more than a dime-size dab at a time, which will be enough KSG to wax an entire fender or door (3 to 4 square foot area). If you have more than a whisper of film to wipe off, you have applied too much KSG.



Use a good buffing towel to remove your KSG. Some people remove it right away, others allow it to sit for a while. Do whatever is easier for you. Both methods work just fine.



Want to make KSG even easier to apply? Mix 75% KSG with 25% Sonus Spritz in a fine mist spray bottle (a 4 oz bottle works best) and skake well. Spray two shots of the KSG/Sonus mixture on your applicator and apply to your paint. It will go on thinner and easier than ever, and removal is a breeze. DO NOT spray directly on your paint.



db



Above is a suggestion from Davidb on using KSG. I've mixed up this combo but have not had a chance to use it yet.
 
f150smith said:
If you're having trouble applying KSG, it's a simple matter of applying too much.
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...or insufficient drying/hazing/dwell time. I usually allow at least an hour to lapse before trying to remove, and always use the dual MFT removal method (one damp, one dry; wipe first with damp, follow immediately with dry) which works great.



$0.02,

Robert
 
What about using a PC with a finishing pad? I remember reading a few members' experiences with this combo, and it seemed they were able to use less product AND able to apply it more uniformly with the PC.
 
As I was putting it on I could tell I was getting it on to thick. Kept using less and less until I could tell it was the right amount.



First coat I let sit over night, second for a couple of hours. There was no difference in removal. However wait 24 hours between coats.



Removal was a bearcat on the first coat where I put it on thicker at first. What worked best for me was the damp MF followed by a dry one. Then after an hour I went back over with another clean MF. Goodluck!
 
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