Klasse longevity

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RJJ

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After about ten months, and one fairly decent New England winter it is time to re-Klasse the Passat.



Over virgin paint, silverstone grey, I did two applications of AIO, and one of SG, and during todays washing I noticed the typical Klasse 'pooling' is just about gone. The paint is still in perfect condition, still slick to the touch, with no acid rain damage or finish deterioration of any kind. The car is a daily driver-about 13k yearly- but is garaged both at home and is under cover at my wifes place of employment.



The durability and ease of use really is amazing.
 
During the 'season' it gets washed usually twice weekly-Griot's wash- and during the off season; as needed at a no touch, no recycle car wash.
 
I also get incredible durability from AIO+SG. I put on several layers of SG and occasionally replenish it (but VERY infrequently), but even if I DON'T replenish it, it lasts a LONG time. Also holds up well to spot-claying (if you're gentle).



Griot's Car Wash seems to work VERY well with SG. Even used at a strong concentration, it doesn't appreciably strip the SG.



I finally redid the roof of the MPV with AIO/SG*2 this weekend (I'll get more layers on it later). I last SG'ed it over a year ago (it DID have MANY coats of SG), last carnauba topper (which I no longer do) was last August. I was gonna wait until I could really TELL it needed doing, but finally just couldn't resist. When I redid it, it was STILL beading (hadn't even degraded to sheeting), still looking great, and there wasn't a SINGLE swirl- what durability and protection!
 
When I do the bi yearly FULL detail on my car with Klasse I normally pass SG once a month after that. it lasts a VERY long time for me.
 
Ok this is interesting. Is the beading similar to wax beading or different. I ask this because on both our VW's, the Passat with only one app of SG and my Jetta with three app's of SG I never got anything which I would consider as beading, not sheeting but more like small pooling as dumb as this sounds.
 
I've only had SG on my passat for a few weeks, and I understand what you mean by pooling. Right after it rains, the water seems to collect in big blobs of water, but as soon as I start moving, those blobs sheet off and leave little tiny beads similar to what you see with wax. The pooling seems to be the worst on my roof, right in the center (probably a just slightly convex). No problem with beading on the sides what so ever.



Michael
 
SG defininitely does not bead like a carnuba wax, which sometimes freaks people out...but it still works...sometime I find it hard to believe that that white stuff (SG) could cure and protect as well as it does..
 
HHMM...this is one of those cases where different people get different results.



I DO get wax-like beading from my Klasse SG. The roof of the MPV was just starting to get the "pooling/sheeting" effect in a few areas when I redid it (currently two layers). Got rained on that night, resulting in beading, but not quite the tight little spherical beads, just like a fresh coat of wax, which is what I get with more layers.



The biggest difference between SG and wax (beading-wise) is that the SG beads don't cling to the surface as much, so I get fewer water spots than with wax. I get the same effect on the WRX and I got similar results (as I recall) on the Audi I Klassed a few years ago. If/when I see pooling (after MANY months), I add more SG, I'm THAT used to SG beading (and old habits die hard, I like to see beads).



Even my BFII beads as opposed to sheeting.



NO idea why I get such different results from other people :nixweiss
 
When I mean pooling or blobs of water, I don't mean sheeting, just larger, say quarter sized, "beads". They are tight, and deep, just larger. All this on freshly applied 3rd layer of SG. I think this might have something to do with the fact that my car is parked outside 24/7 and gets a good bit of dust and dirt on it in a few day time. When freshly cleaned, this pooling affect isn't as great.



Accumulator said:
The biggest difference between SG and wax (beading-wise) is that the SG beads don't cling to the surface as much, so I get fewer water spots than with wax.
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Good point, exactly what I meant to say, but you said it better.



As I said before, I get decent beading on the verticle panels, though not as small and uniform as with S100.



Michael
 
Accumulator said:
NO idea why I get such different results from other people :nixweiss
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That's because you're "special". :D :D



I'm beginning to wonder if the different beading or sheeting behaviour people are reporting is also affected by whether or not the paint has been QD'd (as well as dirt). I came home late one night, after driving through a surprise rain shower (:() and when I walked away from my car I did a double take because I had the most incredible beading action on the hood. For a couple minutes I just stood there in the dark admiring the tall, round, pea-sized beads all over place. :D I had QD'd the car that morning though, so I wasn't sure if that was the Klasse or the QD, but either way I was happy.
 
4DSC said:
That's because you're "special". :D :D
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Heh heh, LOL, I think I've heard that somewhere before (and I imagine the voice sounding like Butt-Head) :D :cool: [Beavis voice:] "I'm SPECIAL! DAMMIT!"



mpauly- OK, now I get it. I'd bet that its being outside IS a factor here. Like when 4DSC had QD'ed, leaving a clean, smooth surface and he got the smaller beads.



And FWIW, I've found that NOTHING beads like Collinite.
 
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