Kevin Brown's Paper!

POPPAJ said:
I hope it comes out soon. I checked the Death Clock today and barring any unforeseen accidents I only have 23 years left to live. :cry:
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Don't worry. No one has an expiration date stamped on the bottom of their foot.



Detailing is good exercise, and it helps to keep the body in shape. I can still squat down to the ground with ease because I've been doing it so long, I guess.



I know of friends, near my age of 52, that can't even do that.
 
Accumulator said:
I for one think that the paper will be worth paying *something* for, and I'm hoping that Kevin Brown sets up a method by which we can do so.



Heh heh, I tried to talk him into getting it published for sale, don't think he's very interested though.



Even if somebody feels they "already know everything there is to know about this stuff" (scare-quotes intentional, and I've been doing this stuff for decades ;) ), there's undoubtedly gonna be *something* of interest in the paper. Why not pay him a little something in exchange for some interesting reading?



IMO, an effort like this deserves to be rewarded.
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I agree 100% This site is a fantastic resource of free information, but the paper Kevin's writing clearly goes above and beyond. As someone who is looking to soak up as much information as possible on the subject, I'd certainly give a donation whenever the paper becomes available.
 
rusty bumper said:
Don't worry. No one has an expiration date stamped on the bottom of their foot.



Detailing is good exercise, and it helps to keep the body in shape. I can still squat down to the ground with ease because I've been doing it so long, I guess.



I know of friends, near my age of 52, that can't even do that.
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I for one can't squat that low, knees are shot I'm 57
 
Accumulator said:
I for one think that the paper will be worth paying *something* for, and I'm hoping that Kevin Brown sets up a method by which we can do so.
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I agree. I would have no problem Pay Pal'ing him for such hard work. I have no idea what something like this would go for though.:confused:
 
rusty bumper said:
I take that the KB method relies heavily on cleaning the pad after each buffing session?
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Well, it relies on cleaning the pads as needed, and that's pretty often. Between the dried-up product and the cut-off clear it can amount to a large part of the overall job. It's a case of *not* just adding more product as needed.
 
dionnfr said:
I for one can't squat that low, knees are shot I'm 57
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Sorry to hear that.



I feel like a heel now.



For my age, I guess my joints are in better shape than most. I tripped and fell (on a concrete floor) at work some ten years ago and did a little damage to my left knee. Had to have some fluid drained out of a pocket, and then had an MRI. Doctor said I was way ahead of the game with my joints, as they showed no sign of deterioration yet.
 
Accumulator said:
Well, it relies on cleaning the pads as needed, and that's pretty often. Between the dried-up product and the cut-off clear it can amount to a large part of the overall job. It's a case of *not* just adding more product as needed.
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I've learned it's better to clean a pad with a stiff nylon brush between buffing sessions before moving on to the next panel.



Some have recommended pressing the pad into a towel (to remove excess liquid I suppose?) every now and then too.
 
I use a tooth brush if working with a wool pad. I've never bothered doing that with a foam pad. Next time I bust out the UC I may give that a shot.
 
rusty bumper said:
I've learned it's better to clean a pad with a stiff nylon brush between buffing sessions before moving on to the next panel..
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Different pad-cleaing techniques for different situations IMO. I probably use all the various cleaning techniques at one time or another.



I do the brush thing with foam pads on the rotary and diminishing-abrasive products.



With M105 (and to a much lesser extent M205) on foam I do better when I really *clean and dry* the pad.



wannafbody said:
I use a tooth brush if working with a wool pad...
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Yeah, I sometimes like a brush for wool instead of my "proper tool" spur. Or even a dulled screwdriver.
 
I like to use compressed air for cleaning pads.



I have gotten so spoiled with using air that when I don't have it available, I feel like a "hack" that is cutting corners.

Consequently, I use a LOT more pads compared to the times I am able to use air for pad cleaning.



And wow! :shocked When you see how much stuff blows out of the pads nowadays it makes you realize why the pads seem to quit working as good as when they are fresh...



So,the next time you are considering dropping a $150-$200 on the latest and greatest buffer...

Spend the dough on a small portable air compressor instead. :dance
 
Kevin Brown said:
I like to use compressed air for cleaning pads.



I have gotten so spoiled with using air that when I don't have it available, I feel like a "hack" that is cutting corners.

Consequently, I use a LOT more pads compared to the times I am able to use air for pad cleaning.



And wow! :shocked When you see how much stuff blows out of the pads nowadays it makes you realize why the pads seem to quit working as good as when they are fresh...



So,the next time you are considering dropping a $150-$200 on the latest and greatest buffer...

Spend the dough on a small portable air compressor instead. :dance
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After a good brushing I presume?



I turn my PC down to "3" and run it with the brush applied to the pad. I remove more dust that way.



Compressed air sounds intriguing though.
 
Accumulator said:
Different pad-cleaing techniques for different situations IMO. I probably use all the various cleaning techniques at one time or another.



I do the brush thing with foam pads on the rotary and diminishing-abrasive products.



With M105 (and to a much lesser extent M205) on foam I do better when I really *clean and dry* the pad.







Yeah, I sometimes like a brush for wool instead of my "proper tool" spur. Or even a dulled screwdriver.
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I've seen that done before.



The flat blade screwdriver had rounded corners after a while.
 
rusty bumper said:
I've seen that done before.



The flat blade screwdriver had rounded corners after a while.
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I have seen that, too.



Guess where the "missing metal" went...?!? Hmmmm... hopefully it went where the old residue did.



I am so paranoid that I even worry about using a spur or a nylon brush.

Don't get me wrong- I DO use them, but I always think about the potential for transferring metal or plastic onto the pad. It's a bit too much, I know... :o



AIR. The "CLEAN" pad-cleaning TOOL! :woot:
 
I order pads in bulk. I use one per panel then toss is until its clean.. a good pressure washer and airline works wonders. What else is realy a fantastic tool is those pad washers in a bucket. there amazing. I used have one at a shop I work at years ago. I still can't believe I have gotton one yet.
 
rusty bumper said:
I've seen that done before.



The flat blade screwdriver had rounded corners after a while.
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The one I've used was already rounded via a grinder for other reasons, and it's made of a mighty tough steel. But yeah...



Kevin Brown said:
Guess where the "missing metal" went...?!? Hmmmm... hopefully it went where the old residue did....
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That *is* some good food for thought there :think: :nervous:

I like to use compressed air for cleaning pads.



I have gotten so spoiled with using air...
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Yeah, now that I've gone back to doing that I can't believe I ever quit. Well, actually I guess I quit doing it when I was going through a bunch of pads, doing it the way buffer barry does, just getting out a fresh one as needed.



I agree, an air compressor is *such* a must-have, for all sorts of reasons.



buffer barry said:
What else is realy a fantastic tool is those pad washers in a bucket. there amazing...
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I always blew those off, thinking they'd only be appropriate for a shop where people where going through a *lot* of pads. Hmm... maybe I'm discounting my time/hassle a bit too much, cleaing pads by hand *does* take a while.



Given your no-BS approach to this stuff, when *you* say they're good, well, I'm paying attention.
 
Kevin Brown said:
AIR. The "CLEAN" pad-cleaning TOOL! :woot:
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Clean air that is.



I used to use compressed air at work, and some days, I swear, I thought it was a garden hose instead of an air hose.



Plasma torches just won't work with a wet, oily air supply.
 
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