Just purchases a Mytee Lite II...any tips for using

Interesting and informative thread.



Here's some food for thought: "The water you leave in the carpet is just as dirty as the water you extract." Hmmmm.



I dunno, but I just keep moving forward.



JB
 
bdaly84 said:
I purchased it from Detail King, Pittsburgh, pa. I have purchased a few things from them and one of the big reasons is that I can have my orders in one-two days, ground ship. I live in MD so UPS has two big hubs one near DK in New Stanton, PA and one here in Hunt Valley, MD. I paid $749.00 + shipping. Again, it may have been alittle more than some other sites, but I dont have to wait a week to get it. I ordered yesterday and should have it today or tomorrow.





Funny I went to there seminar last year and haven't really looked back at there site not to say that the class wasn't informative but when I got back I found this site and many others and found cheaper ways of getting the same product but you live close so its more convenient for you.



Grouse your knowledge on this is great I will be new to this process and will be greatful if you break down how you would go about doing a carpet extraction what products you would use and what chemicals you would put in the extractor if thats what you would do don't know if I read you post right.
 
Jimmy Buffit said:
Interesting and informative thread.



Here's some food for thought: "The water you leave in the carpet is just as dirty as the water you extract." Hmmmm. . . .

JB



Ahh Jimmy, you're such a pessimist. . .



The water I leave in the carpet is just as clean as the water I am extracting.





Nonetheless, informative thread. Thanks for the run-down Grouse. I always appreciate the years of real world experience you bring to this topic. I am very happy with the Bio-Kleen products that I have been using, FWIW. POG, Citri-Solv and Bac-Out play an integral role in my cleaning regiment. I am using the heated 8070 and find that I really have to make sure the water is steaming hot to completely break down the above spotters. This is not such a bad thing as this additional five or so minutes lengthens the chem's dwell-time allowing them to work to their full potential. I can be somewhat impatient at times
 
757motoring said:
Funny I went to there seminar last year and haven't really looked back at there site not to say that the class wasn't informative but when I got back I found this site and many others and found cheaper ways of getting the same product but you live close so its more convenient for you.



Grouse your knowledge on this is great I will be new to this process and will be greatful if you break down how you would go about doing a carpet extraction what products you would use and what chemicals you would put in the extractor if thats what you would do don't know if I read you post right.



So the basics to start here is my process as I follow it. Keep in mind I use a HWE. So if your using a LGCM or something similar your going to have to work a bit more.







1) 1)dry vac



2) dry vac again.



90-95% of the soils in the fiber are dry particulate dirt, best removed by dry vacuuming. if you add moisture to a poorly vacuumed fiber/carpet you have to work 10 times harder than needed with 10 times the amount of chemical and water than is needed. With 3-4 times the drying time. So dry vac very thoroughly. Use multiple attachments.



3)Pre treat stains and spots.



Why do this now? Because stain removers work best when applied to virgin stains, In many cases if not all that i can think of right now detergents will inhibit the stain removers if applied before the stain remover. So spot treat trouble areas first, Buy specific products for those areas. lightly rub them in and let them sit while you prepare you chemicals for the main area.







This is where you evaluate your stains:



If it is an oily, greasy, grimy but not food based stain dab it with citra-solv and gently agitate it thoroughly through the fiber.



If it is a food, or protein based stain then add the bac out stain remover. Agitate carefully into the fiber. Let sit 5 to 10 min .



4) Pre-condition the fiber/carpet with cleaner.



use a proper cleaning product. Read the dilution ratio's More product is not better or, lower dilution. These products work in conjunction with water, improperly mixing them will provide very poor results. Normal carpet cleaning agents are 32 parts water to 1 part solution. Once applied Brush in with your brush or PC if you feel the need. Despite what you think agitation will not improve your dirt removal. In many cases you'll keep the detergent from working by agitating too much. In some cases you will distort the fiber. (velvet it) The purpose of agitation is not to break dirt free, but to get your cleaning product to as much surface of the fiber as possible. So light agitation will suffice.







This is the area where you decide which of the two pre-conditioner/traffic lane cleaners to use.



If it is a oily soil, grease, shop gunk, mud, or plain dirt use ultra pac with lvc.



If it is more of a kids dumped all their frys, shakes, soda, pizza hamburgers, fish crackers car then use bi-o-kleens traffic lane cleaner.



If it is the head liner or seats then use fine fabric shampoo. (I will type up an addendum of how to approach these properly)



5) Extraction,

You can use a bonnet method i mentioned above, think Chem-dry the nationally owned chain.

You can extract with shop vac and 1/2 gallon pump sprayer of clean water or water 1ith 1/2 oz of vinager mixed itn

You can extract with LGCM or similar tool.

You can extract by buffing with a towel.

You can use a HW extractor.



The key is to get the fiber clean, then get it dry as possible, then get it set up for the shortest drying time as possible.







In this case the is where you put in your dry slurry mixed rinse agent and extract. This will remove any final pre-conditioners, spotters and any remaining soils leaving the fiber prepped for protectant.



6) Applying the protectant. Here is where you apply the protectant to seats, headliner, and carpets. I was unable to give you a huge amount but it should be sufficient to do one sedan. Mist it on the carpet, seats, and headliner. Then with a clean white terry, dry stroke it to work it into the fibers. 1 16oz bottle should do a sedan so try and space it out accordingly.





7) Drying.

There is little air movement in a car, So turn the fans on crack the windows, set up small portable blowers. The faster you get this dry the less soil wicking you will have. Adding significant air movement and ventalation will cut drying time in half if not by 3/4. Adding the bonnet buffing i mentioned befor can make even a HW extracted carpet dry with in 45-1 hour of finishing.







Using the fine fabric shampoo.



This is actually a shampoo. It is designed to make vast amounts of suds. It is made for fine fabrics. IE silk, hatian cotton, ect ect. You can spray it through a spritzer and brush it in with a horse hair brush on the seats with out worry. Then simply extract them like you would the carpet.



However it is different for the headliner. Here I recommend using a super dense grout sponge. Dip it in your mixed solution. Wring it 80% of the way dry. Then massage it back and for the like an accordion. This will generate a dense lather. Gently brush the lather onto the headliner with the sponge. Then wipe dry with a clean MF or Terry towel. Repeat this through the whole headliner. It may look blotch but will dry with out water marking. That is to say. If you only clean with foam resist the temptation to clean with the wetness of the sponge. If that happens dampen a terry wring it out and wipe the whole headliner down then gently vacuum and set up air movers to dry.
 
Wow Grouse you are the best that was a great write up you did not waist your time I'm printing that out as we speak so I can go over it a get my technics down. One more question and I promise I will leave you alone LOL. what is your different product choices
 
that is a toughy.



let me prefice it with a post about what base products to use when



Neutral detergents make for (in general) poor cleaners, They make better specific spot removers.



alkaline cleaners make for great dirt and grime cleaners. but do very poorly on tanins, urines, and protien based soils.



Acidic detergents make for poor dirt removals, but do very well on urines, tanin, some protien based stains, and some food based dyes.



Enzymes are usually reserved for organics like foodstuffs, grass, and others.



Solvents, make for very poor detergents as they have almost no cleaning ability. However wehn combined with an alkaline detergent you will finde a combo that will defeat many oily soils found in cars. Apply the solvent to fiber first, work in with brush, then apply AK detergent.



So for a neutral detergent I like Folex or Bridge points avenge.



For a General dirt preconditioner I like Prochems Ultra Pac, and Bi-o-kleens traffic lane cleaner.



For a food stuffs general preconditioner i like biokleen traffic lane cleaner.



For a dry slurry/rinse agent I liKe prochems Dry slurry, clean green, bridgepoints point blue. For a rinse agent I like Prochems liquid pro and all fiber rinse.



For a grease soil I like to pre spot it with P.O.G. from biokleen, citra-solv from prochem



For a food stuff spot i like to spot it with BioKleen's back out.



For Natural red, coffee, tanin dye spots I like stain magic by pro's choice. I also like Urine stain remover is a last step removal tool for natrual dyes.



For synthetic food dyes, decaf coffee, popsicles etc I like red relief by pro's choice. Again USR from above will help remove any remaining yellowing.



For rust I like T-rust from prochem.
 
Thanks alot Grouse that write up is well appreciated. A question for you guys since where on the interior I heard somebody up here talk about using a steamer on the interior door panel and dash to clean and loosing up dirt how many people have done this and found success with this technic.
 
757motoring said:
Thanks alot Grouse that write up is well appreciated. A question for you guys since where on the interior I heard somebody up here talk about using a steamer on the interior door panel and dash to clean and loosing up dirt how many people have done this and found success with this technic.



We switched over to a vapor steamer about 1 month ago. So far aside from the learning curve we are amazed at the results. The old bucket/brush technique as you know leaves water running from cracks and crevices even after drying. We are still learning the best way to apply the new process but have noticed the time we spend on interiors is dropping. Also we spend less money on chemicals. A gallon of Distilled water runs about $.99 here, and we can get 2-3 sedans clean with that. As for the process on the door panels and any other hard plastic, we wrap the triangle brush with a microfiber then just steam and wipe. Close inspection of most autos today will show that the plastic is/has a texture to it, and the VS will lift the dirt out of those areas. We really need to do a write up on this with pictures.



Walter

Co-owner
 
Wetwerks said:
We switched over to a vapor steamer about 1 month ago. So far aside from the learning curve we are amazed at the results. The old bucket/brush technique as you know leaves water running from cracks and crevices even after drying. We are still learning the best way to apply the new process but have noticed the time we spend on interiors is dropping. Also we spend less money on chemicals. A gallon of Distilled water runs about $.99 here, and we can get 2-3 sedans clean with that. As for the process on the door panels and any other hard plastic, we wrap the triangle brush with a microfiber then just steam and wipe. Close inspection of most autos today will show that the plastic is/has a texture to it, and the VS will lift the dirt out of those areas. We really need to do a write up on this with pictures.



Walter

Co-owner



thanks for that info Wetwerks yeah you guys or anybody with one needs to do a write up with pictures I want to be able to give my customers satisfaction and using tools to make my job easier.
 
I also have the mytee lite and can confirm it's a great machine and uncountable times better than the lgph. I've yet to use any chemicals in the solution tank of the machine, but would love some advice. So far the chemicals I have are Prochem's Ultrapac TLC and All Fiber rinse. I've mixed the TLC and have it in a spray bottle to use as a general cleaner/preconditioner, however I've yet to use the All Fiber Rinse. Should I mix up a spray bottle of this or should I use it in the solution tank? If anyone could run thru the dilution ratio and use of the all fiber rinse that'd be great.
 
Wetwerks said:
We switched over to a vapor steamer about 1 month ago. So far aside from the learning curve we are amazed at the results. The old bucket/brush technique as you know leaves water running from cracks and crevices even after drying. We are still learning the best way to apply the new process but have noticed the time we spend on interiors is dropping. Also we spend less money on chemicals. A gallon of Distilled water runs about $.99 here, and we can get 2-3 sedans clean with that. As for the process on the door panels and any other hard plastic, we wrap the triangle brush with a microfiber then just steam and wipe. Close inspection of most autos today will show that the plastic is/has a texture to it, and the VS will lift the dirt out of those areas. We really need to do a write up on this with pictures.



Walter

Co-owner



Vapor Steamers and Carpet Extractors reduce time & money substantially, highly recommended for any serious Professional!
 
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