Just picked up some Zaino

[Untouchable]

Hi, first timer. Just picked up some zaino after seeing a car with it at a show over the weekend. Did one coat on my car so far (06 Jeep SRT8) and it looks very sharp. I did notice that Zaino preaches on cotton bath towels vs microfiber. Talk about a pissed off wife when I sliced up the Ralph Lauren towel for the Jeep. Of course it was worth it. What do you guys think of the product. Do I put wax over the polish or leave it as is? Thanks

WQ

 

[joyriide1113]

Leave as is. Although not the only "great" product, Zaino is in the top arsenal and is one of those products that needs no corrections..


P.S. Don't buy into zaino's cotton<MF towel issue. I've seen 100% scratch same way bad quality MF towels scratch.

Everything works as long as quality is in place. Unfortunately, that means it comes with a price.

Search the forum for Microfiber.

 

[black bart]

Personally I don't care for the sterile look of Zaino but a lot of people like it.
I can spot a zainod car a block away the shine looks like it is laying on top of the paint. I have not seen a car done with the new Z5pro it is claimed to have a little more depth.

 

[G35stilez]

Stick with Zaino.

Between Z5 Pro (deeper, wetter, more "wax-like") and Z2 Pro (very wet and a lot of 'pop'), you are pretty set. I find myself just alternating from 5 to 2 and back again, depending on how I feel .

 

[Mike-in-WV]

Zaino is good but it wont come close to the shine,depth and durability of the Duraglos 105 with a topping of Duragloss Aqua Wax. It's also much cheaper and much easier to use. Mike

 

[G35stilez]

Zaino is good but it wont come close to the shine,depth and durability of the Duraglos 105 with a topping of Duragloss Aqua Wax. It's also much cheaper and much easier to use. Mike

Have you tested the 105 + AW vs. Z5 Pro + Z8 side by side?

 

[JeffW]

Zaino is good but it wont come close to the shine,depth and durability of the Duraglos 105 with a topping of Duragloss Aqua Wax. It's also much cheaper and much easier to use. Mike

Mikey-in-WV: I find it interesting when only a few days ago you indicated in another thread that 'I'm new to this stuff too' and here you are today knocking what is obviously a top notch, well respected product as atested to by many long term posters on this board and other boards. Many of these posters are professional detailers and serious weekend warriors who have experienced many, many of the products prior to making assessments about their favorite products.

Post #14 in this thread:
http://www.detailcity.org/forums/ls...ied-duragloss-105-a-test-area.html#post191930

People will respect your opinion, and the results you post, if you remain as objective as possible and try to refrain from bashing. I apologize to you if I've misintrepeted your intent.

JeffW

 

[Mike-in-WV]

JeffW, Climb down off your high horse boy! Never ment my comment as a slam to anyone or any product. If I wanted to slam something or someone I would do it.
As for being new to this I am new to detailing as some of you pros do it but I'm far from being new at taking care of my vehicals with wax , sealers ,polish and special wash products. I started doing that at age 14 and I'm 60 tomarrow. So don't be sarcastic to someone you don't know or make untrue comments to or about anyone you don't know. No reason for it unless you feel you are better than the rest of us. In that case your openion means very little to me.
I have used Zano several times and in fact just gave some to one my son's and it's a great wax. My comment above was that it doesn't come close to the shine of 105 toped by AW and that Duragloss was much cheaper. All that is fact in my openion but it's just that , My openion. Never did I say Zano wasn't a great product. That's just not the case and most of us know that.
Sorry if you misunderstood me or thought that I was slaming Zano. Mike

 

[Mike-in-WV]

Have you tested the 105 + AW vs. Z5 Pro + Z8 side by side?

G35Stilez, A few months ago I tried the new (new to me) Mothers Gold wax and cleaner in one and was impressed with it but it was chalky and dusty to work with by hand, anyway. Left a great shine that beaded water like crazy. After a few weeks we washed my 01 silver Tacoma in Dawn twice and then tried the Z6 over Z2 ( This was given to me by a friend) and it was beautiful! Never tried the Z8 ......yet From what I hear the Z8 is really the way to go.
After going off roading for a while my truck needed a total new makeover. We used Mothers first and used Duragloss AW over it and that's when I found that nothing ever made my Lunar Mist silver shine like the AW ! After several coats and of AW and several car washes and rains to follow it held up better than anything I had seen so far.
Then I decided to go with a good cleaning with Duragloss 652 #2 followed by several coats of 105 and then topped with several coats of AW. That's where I'm at now and I am very pleased with the results, the price and the ease of application. It gives the flakes a look of floating deep in the paint and a shine that's unmatched by anything that I have used .
Over the past years I have used many different waxes and polishes but there are so many I can't afford to try them all. Mike

 

[JeffW]

JeffW, Climb down off your high horse boy! Never ment my comment as a slam to anyone or any product. If I wanted to slam something or someone I would do it.
As for being new to this I am new to detailing as some of you pros do it but I'm far from being new at taking care of my vehicals with wax , sealers ,polish and special wash products. I started doing that at age 14 and I'm 60 tomarrow. So don't be sarcastic to someone you don't know or make untrue comments to or about anyone you don't know. No reason for it unless you feel you are better than the rest of us. In that case your openion means very little to me.
I have used Zano several times and in fact just gave some to one my son's and it's a great wax. My comment above was that it doesn't come close to the shine of 105 toped by AW and that Duragloss was much cheaper. All that is fact in my openion but it's just that , My openion. Never did I say Zano wasn't a great product. That's just not the case and most of us know that.
Sorry if you misunderstood me or thought that I was slaming Zano. Mike

Hey, Mike, I was not being sarcastic, nor did I state anything untrue about you or any product you wrote about as you suggest in your post.

If you feel that I misunderstood your comments, then I am sorry and I apologize to you. I wrote that in the original post and I meant it then as I do now.

Good day.

 

[mgm2003]

Have you tested the 105 + AW vs. Z5 Pro + Z8 side by side?

Sean, If you want to try DG let me know and I'll send some your way. It's a decent OTC line up, but nothing ground breaking IMO.

I think the Mother's FX line is a bit better -but then again.....

Mother's doesn't have a NASCAR team, so Duragloss is the ticket

I'm sticking with Zaino (as a LSP). It does a lot of 'little things' that other products don't.

For example:

When it rains....

-The road crud repels better than ANYTHING I've ever used.
-Water spotting on my paint and windows is minimal (sometimes none at all) after a summer shower, followed up by full sun.
-Z16 doesn't wash off the tires or spot, and my rims don't film up to the point that I need to use a dedicated wheel cleaner when I wash.

When I rinse my paint, water cleans off the surface like nothing I've ever seen.

I feel much better running my mitt over paint that doesn't have fine dirt/gravel/sand stuck to the surface. I have a black SUV, and used to polish out marring constantly. I haven't polished out our Tahoe since last December. I'm not saying that I don't have some marring in the paint -but it's very slight, and you can only see it in full sun/very bright days. It's not enough for me to bust out the polishing supplies every month.

IMO, most of the 'boutique' products work very well (if you follow the directions). Some products work better than others in certain climates, some look better than others in the 'eye of the beholder', etc... I still use (and like) 4*, Poorboys, WG, FK, etc...., but on my rides I only use Menzerna & Zaino these days. I'll read this post a year from now, and I'll probably be using something else (LOL).

At the end of the day, I'm more concerned with technique & products used prep the surface & remove or improve defects. I get 80-90% satisfaction out of prep, and 10-20% out of LSP.
The boards seem to be to top heavy with LSP. The trick to this game is surface prep and maintenance techniques (IMO), and that's all in the hands of the individual and his/her experience.

 

[scrub]

Never used any of the products in question. Just a friendly reminder to stay on topic, keep things civil, and respect each others view points. So far so good but please don't let it get out of hand. Brand X vs. Brand Y Wax discussions tend to do that sometimes.

Hopefully Untouchable, since this was one of his first posts to our forum, will be back to follow up.

Thanks
Scrub

 

[Anthony A]

I hear and read about people saying they like or dislike the look of Zaino. From what I understand Zaino is supposed to be optically perfect. So how can it have "a look"? It is supposed to be perfectly clear so all you will see is whats under neath which is the prep.

 

[joe.p]

Geez, with all this hype about the two products lets get someone to donate the 2 to someone who's opinion we all highly respect and compare the two products in looks and durability then each person can form there own opinions and weather they wanna spend the extra $$ for one product or the other. either way there still being produced from they same company J/K :lmfao

 

[black bart]

I hear and read about people saying they like or dislike the look of Zaino. From what I understand Zaino is supposed to be optically perfect. So how can it have "a look"? It is supposed to be perfectly clear so all you will see is whats under neath which is the prep.

You need to ask that on Zaino Central more commonly know as the detailing section of Corvette Forum. Warning those guys are intolerant of anyone who does not sing praise to Zaino.
I'm new to DC but already I can see a big difference from CF and here. The monitors here keep thing civil that is not the case on CF.
I see a few of them are on here also i recognize the screen names but they are more civil here gotta give credit to the monitors here for that.
Looks like here on DC you can discuss different products and give your opinion of them without being attacked.
I have never used Duragloss but I plan on putting it on my ranger this weekend. I called them because their web site don't have much info but I told the sweet thing that answered the phone that I wanted some tech info about their product and I got to talk to the owner his name is Bill he is one of the brothers and both of them are chemist. he spent a lot of time with me answering all of my questions.
I have read many times where other than Zaino can you call and talk to the owner well i can name one. I hope this product is as good as their customer service.
As to your question about optically clear one guy on CF was always blasting other products saying that they had fillers and Zaino was optically clear because it had no fillers. Now we have the new Z5pro it is much better because it hides and fills better than the old one. Imagine that now fillers are great before they where bad.
He also would tell people that they should not use a wax that had abrasives in them bad for the clear coat but then recommended using ZPC to get a smooth surface and top with Zaino.
I'm not knocking Zaino but what those who are so dedicated to it that what they say to hype it defies all logic.

 

[Anthony A]

You need to ask that on Zaino Central more commonly know as the detailing section of Corvette Forum. Warning those guys are intolerant of anyone who does not sing praise to Zaino.
I'm new to DC but already I can see a big difference from CF and here. The monitors here keep thing civil that is not the case on CF.
I see a few of them are on here also i recognize the screen names but they are more civil here gotta give credit to the monitors here for that.
Looks like here on DC you can discuss different products and give your opinion of them without being attacked.
I have never used Duragloss but I plan on putting it on my ranger this weekend. I called them because their web site don't have much info but I told the sweet thing that answered the phone that I wanted some tech info about their product and I got to talk to the owner his name is Bill he is one of the brothers and both of them are chemist. he spent a lot of time with me answering all of my questions.
I have read many times where other than Zaino can you call and talk to the owner well i can name one. I hope this product is as good as their customer service.
As to your question about optically clear one guy on CF was always blasting other products saying that they had fillers and Zaino was optically clear because it had no fillers. Now we have the new Z5pro it is much better because it hides and fills better than the old one. Imagine that now fillers are great before they where bad.
He also would tell people that they should not use a wax that had abrasives in them bad for the clear coat but then recommended using ZPC to get a smooth surface and top with Zaino.
I'm not knocking Zaino but what those who are so dedicated to it that what they say to hype it defies all logic.

I have news for you. Those Zaino guys on the Corvette forum are not the exception. They are typical Zaino Zealots/cultists. They exist on every car forum and they are like talking to a wall. You pointed out a couple Zaino contradictions that I have noticed myself, the fillers and abrasives, but you will not get a straight answer from any of them when asked about it. They all love the look of Zaino but it's supposed to be optically perfect. I guess they like the look of nothingness than.

 

[The Chee]

Guys let's get back on topic. DC just ain't the type of site for knocking other forums or their members.

The question again is "What do you guys think of the product. Do I put wax over the polish or leave it as is? "

Obviously,the question is for someone who has used Zaino and not what you have heard or what your neighbour's cousin told you etc.

Let's make DC a positive experience,shall we?

Peace

+Chee

 

[Statman]

Chee Chee horrah! OK I'm a zealot (so obviously take my opinions with a grain of salt)...I have tried putting P21S over the Zaino and ...just keep going back to Z. I have a BLACK car and it really has been wonderful. I washed my car...let's see once this summer. Just dust it and Z-8 and..well I'm happy. I have had a number of my car fanatic friends lining up for Z treatment. In reality with the prep care most of us do...it probably doesn't matter that much what we use. We are fanatics and what ever we use will (within reason) look great. Peace out.