Jeff Suggs Custom Auto Trim & molding repair "Textured & Smooth"

[maxepr1]

Jeff, proper spelling and grammar is not only for us but you also your potential customers. Since the "Paint Overspray Specialist" on google links them also to here were a potential customer can see your professionalism!

251 vehicles this year, that's 5.5 cars per day. That's pretty good if it true? You take any days off or just work straight through? I just don't see that happening with amount of overspray in video's? Just don't make up numbers to impress us, I'm not impressed.

 

[Jeff Suggs]

Jeff, proper spelling and grammar is not only for us but you also your potential customers. Since the "Paint Overspray Specialist" on google links them also to here were a potential customer can see your professionalism!

251 vehicles this year, that's 5.5 cars per day. That's pretty good if it true? You take any days off or just work straight through? I just don't see that happening with amount of overspray in video's? Just don't make up numbers to impress us, I'm not impressed.

I not trying to impress you or anyone else on this forum. The vehicles you see in my videos are the worse of the worse. Most vehicles can be repaired using the clay-bar. I can easily repair 5 vehicles a daily. I start work at 7am, and repair 3 by 1pm. I then go for a lunch brake, come back and repair 2 or 3 more. My customers know that am from out of town, so they make their vehicles available 7 days a week. Sometimes the vehicles are so easy that I wonder why they even called me. Think about this for a minute, practice makes perfect. I have repaired thousands of vehicle over the years. If you do sometime no manner what it is thousands of times, you're going to become extremely good at. Take my "blading technique" for example, using a razor blade on a vehicle. When I blade a SUV, I am striking over the paint with the blade over 3000 time. I do this while the owner is present. I can hold the camera in one hand, use the razor blade in the other hand. I am also talking to the customer and keeping the work that am doing in frame. I can also blade left handed as demonstrated in this video. I am going to link this video to demonstrate what i just said. When you get to 2 minutes into this video watch very carefully, I simply wipe off the wax and to prove the blade did not scratch the paint. Would you rather blade a car if you could, or wet-sand it ? Honest answer

 

[Jeff Suggs]

That looks like some real damage there Thomas, I get a lot of people telling me to wipe alcohol on the car, to see if there were any swirls left in the paint. I don't use a compound, I run the buffer at 1000RPM even when I am polishing aluminum fuel tankers and their parts. Even when the customer is walking around the vehicle inspecting it. The vehicles are then taking to the dealership's paint & body department because i just shot down the estimate to repaint the vehicle. What am trying to say is my work is check over by several individuals and departments before it is sighed off on. The work you are demonstrating is very good but, i would have rather seen the repairs done in a video. The work is good to go, i know this because of the shop light in the back ground. This is where you would see if there were any scratches left in the clear-coat. Did you wet-sand it or just buffed it out ?

 

[David Fermani]

Your members are the only reason I joined or commented on this forum.

Lets be honest David, your members started all this by linking my videos to this site and making some very rude comments that had nothing to do with asking question about detailing. I let this go on for 2 years until I finally commented back. Now I am the bad guy for speaking against your members.

WRONG – you came here spamming us with your You-Tube page long before anyone ever mentioned how much of a hack you were/are. Case in point here you were back on 3/10 (2 years before anyone posted anything about you here) wanting people to go to your website/You-tube page. You posted in a thread that nobody posted in for nearly 2 years just to spam us with your website link. Keep in mind that you came to us and right off the bat started spamming us with your links.

http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-de...y-all-over-my-dads-mini-help.html#post1362954



You basically initiated people here to check out your work, now you b*t*h because we’ve commented on it? That’s pretty hypocritical don’t you think?

You had no problem with your members down grading someone they don't even know. The only reason you will not remove the so called epic thread is, it show up on Google results. When you Google "paint overspray removal companies" the only listing for autopia is my thread about "specializes overspray field". When this thread is removed, autopia will not show up on search results for paint overspray removal.

The proof is in the pudding. You dug the hole you’re in by thinking your method is the only and best way remove overspray. Case in point the title to the thread that you’re so concerned with:





http://www.autopia.org/forum/epic-threads/141727-paint-overspray-removal-specialized-field.html



If the title of that thread reeks of arrogance don’t you thing? Trust me, if anything, the detailing industry AS A WHOLE will benefit from people reading these threads so they can make their own conclusion to how practical your methods are. If they can prevent 1 person from damaging their finish by thinking blading off overspray is a safe method to use, then it’s served its purpose.



In my opinion you started this whole thing by trying to promote your work on this forum. I have no problem locking this thread because it's clearly gone off track, but I'm not going to delete this or any other one. It's posted freely, it's staying.

 

[Jeff Suggs]

I have an excellent system that i use to polish heavily damaged aluminum tanks and their parts. You can also polish out the scratches in the aluminum and the decals. In this video I polished the roof of this tanker truck and removed the iron dust. I also polished out scratches and chemical stains from the siren lights. I have one other video already linked here that demonstrates how i polish aluminum and decals. It took me 3 days to polish this tanker. If anyone would like to see me demonstrate how i do this, you don't have to say anything. I am going to finish the back end of the tanker in the morning. I polished the right side as demonstrated in this video. I will demonstrated 3 different ways to polish aluminum. I am going to film it and add the extra footage to this video below

 

[Concours.John]

Jeff I actually appreciate the way you responded to Thomas. This is more the dialog we were looking for. The blading IS a technique that takes skill and old school but very effective. I have personally seen it done. The main questions have been about seeing the finish. I can't say what the finishes look like from the videos. It doesn't mean they aren't right. People have been put on the defensive because there are ones producing quality work but maybe doing it "longhand" with clay.



As you know catalyzed clears can be very destructive when the damage is done at close range. The clear actually etches in. While shaving the main damage heavy compounding or sanding is still necessary.

 

[maxepr1]

Jeff, we all make lots of money off Dealership's paint and body departments. The "individuals" inspecting these cars are all blind!

This is OK by the dealer! Hundreds of dents and chips!

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All this passed the QA department, car has 4 miles on it, and the owner hasn't even driven it! Straight out of a covered hauler from the factory! 100K+ car, Jeff. So that theory doesn't hold much water with me Jeff!

 

[David Fermani]

That looks like some real damage there Thomas, I get a lot of people telling me to wipe alcohol on the car, to see if there were any swirls left in the paint. I don't use a compound, I run the buffer at 1000RPM even when I am polishing aluminum fuel tankers and their parts. Even when the customer is walking around the vehicle inspecting it. The vehicles are then taking to the dealership's paint & body department because i just shot down the estimate to repaint the vehicle. What am trying to say is my work is check over by several individuals and departments before it is sighed off on. The work you are demonstrating is very good but, i would have rather seen the repairs done in a video. The work is good to go, i know this because of the shop light in the back ground. This is where you would see if there were any scratches left in the clear-coat. Did you wet-sand it or just buffed it out ?

I think you're missing the point. You're using BC-2 (a filler polish) with a wool cutting pad. And you're buffing on edge. What you're doing is filling the buffer swirls you're installing. What wiping the finish with alcohol will do is remove the BC-2 filling oils showing the true finish. Try it, you'll see. I've went though a case of BC-2 per week for nearly 10 years straight. I know what it's capable of doing. Just because the finish is glossy and the overspray is gone and the clients signs off doesn't mean that you did a great job ultimately. If you are willing to advance your detailing skills then I would strongly suggest being more involved with this forum.



There are countless threads on Autopia showing how great a car looked after it was painted until all the fillers wear off revealing the real finish. Usually body shops or uneducated detailers using a wool pad thinking that the finish it's creating it true. It's not.

 

[Buffautodetail]

Autopia doesn't want to take any of your posts down because they want future clients to see how you are what's so hard to understand!!! Look under click and brag guaranteed you will see many of the people who posted on this threads work somewhere in there.

 

[Jeff Suggs]

WRONG – you came here spamming us with your You-Tube page long before anyone ever mentioned how much of a hack you were/are. Case in point here you were back on 3/10 (2 years before anyone posted anything about you here) wanting people to go to your website/You-tube page. You posted in a thread that nobody posted in for nearly 2 years just to spam us with your website link. Keep in mind that you came to us and right off the bat started spamming us with your links.

http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-de...y-all-over-my-dads-mini-help.html#post1362954



You basically initiated people here to check out your work, now you b*t*h because we’ve commented on it? That’s pretty hypocritical don’t you think?











The proof is in the pudding. You dug the hole you’re in by thinking your method is the only and best way remove overspray. Case in point the title to the thread that you’re so concerned with:





http://www.autopia.org/forum/epic-threads/141727-paint-overspray-removal-specialized-field.html



If the title of that thread reeks of arrogance don’t you thing? Trust me, if anything, the detailing industry AS A WHOLE will benefit from people reading these threads so they can make their own conclusion to how practical your methods are. If they can prevent 1 person from damaging their finish by thinking blading off overspray is a safe method to use, then it’s served its purpose.



In my opinion you started this whole thing by trying to promote your work on this forum. I have no problem locking this thread because it's clearly gone off track, but I'm not going to delete this or any other one. It's posted freely, it's staying.

David I was offering my help in overspray removal manners. That has nothing to do with someone linking my videos to this site, and using this site to make comments for years. I have never taken someone's video and linked it to a site for me and my friends to bash someone, calling them a hack. If I did that to you David, or you trying to tell me you would have had no problem with that. This went on for so long, I ended up removing the videos from my Youtube account. That might not mean much to you, but those where the first videos I ever made. I make a very good living at what I do, so I take it personally when someone is jacking around with my livelihood. I am over David, I am offer to extend my hand and pass on how I polish in great detail aluminum tanks.

 

[Jeff Suggs]

Jeff, we all make lots of money off Dealership's paint and body departments. The "individuals" inspecting these cars are all blind!

This is OK by the dealer! Hundreds of dents and chips!

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae286/maxepr1/DSC_4184.jpg

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae286/maxepr1/DSC_4140.jpg

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae286/maxepr1/DSC_4136.jpg

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae286/maxepr1/DSC_4139.jpg

All this passed the QA department, car has 4 miles on it, and the owner hasn't even driven it! Straight out of a covered hauler from the factory! 100K+ car, Jeff. So that theory doesn't hold much water with me Jeff!

The difference in you detailing something and me repairing something that has industrial paint overspray, is the owner has an estimate to repaint the vehicle. They world love to cash the check and keep the money. At this point the owner has been told by the paint shop, his insurer and whatever detail-shop that his ride can't be fix. So now the customer gets a call from his insurer telling him there sending out an "overspray removal specialist" to repair their vehicle. I call the customer and tell them if you would like to observe some of my work just Google, Yahoo or Bing "paint overspray removal companies" then hit videos. They always ask which videos are yours, and I tell them 98% of them are mine. I never hide my blading technique from anyone. So now the customer knows how I am going to repair his vehicle before i even get there. I then invite him to observe the process first hand. Be honest how many of you guys are willing to repair a vehicle that is heavily damaged while the owner is watching you. I invite the customer to look the vehicle over and try to find a scratch. There are no cutaways while this is going on. Thats like wet-sanding a door while the owner is watching and then tell them try to find some sand marks. I have videos linked here that back up everything i just said.

 

[Jeff Suggs]

I was hoping someone would check out this video that proves beyond question that my blading method is fool proof for me. Charles Hahn I have no problem with you but if your going to make comments about my work, then be honest. This vehicle has Protective Marine Coatings, which is very hard to remove. Several paint shops, other overspray companies and several detail-shops tried to repair this truck and failed. I actually like it when take happens, I get to charge double for my services. Watch this video very carefully and tried to find any type of damage occurring from my blading process. 2 minutes into the video, I simply wipe of the wax and do a extreme close up with my HD camera. If there was any damage you have seen it for sure. There are several other scenes in this video that demonstrate this. Not to mention the customer is watching at all times. I then take park the truck in the sun and do a walk around with the customer.

 

[Jeff Suggs]

I have mentioned this once before, I use BC-2 to buff with because its very low in the abrasive scale. I use many other products for the final steps in repairing vehicles. When I travel to another country or here in the US to manage a job there is always someone waiting for me when i get to the job trying to sell me product. I am always willing to try different products, am not a closed mined person. I have car care products from Germany, Japan, Crystal Rock Swissvax from Switzerland, 3m products, Meguiars ect. to mention a few. I don't demonstrate the use of these products because i don't want the other overspray companies to know what products am using. They all us Auto Magic products. I am cool with them thinking that BC-2 is all I use.

 

[Dan]

Jeff, do you understand BC-2 conceals swrils, buffer trails and marring?

 

[maxepr1]

The difference in you detailing something and me repairing something that has industrial paint overspray, is the owner has an estimate to repaint the vehicle. They world love to cash the check and keep the money. At this point the owner has been told by the paint shop, his insurer and whatever detail-shop that his ride can't be fix. So now the customer gets a call from his insurer telling him there sending out an "overspray removal specialist" to repair their vehicle. I call the customer and tell them if you would like to observe some of my work just Google, Yahoo or Bing "paint overspray removal companies" then hit videos. They always ask which videos are yours, and I tell them 98% of them are mine. I never hide my blading technique from anyone. So now the customer knows how I am going to repair his vehicle before i even get there. I then invite him to observe the process first hand. Be honest how many of you guys are willing to repair a vehicle that is heavily damaged while the owner is watching you. I invite the customer to look the vehicle over and try to find a scratch. There are no cutaways while this is going on. Thats like wet-sanding a door while the owner is watching and then tell them try to find some sand marks. I have videos linked here that back up everything i just said.

Jeff, I always allow my customers to watch and some even help in the correction process of there vehicle. I even show them how to maintain there vehicle so that it will look it's best as long as they own it. No secrets here. I think most guy's on here have plenty of customers watch there rides being repaired. Not so sure why your so hung up on the video thing? I will take hundreds of photo's of a car before and after. I don't use any photo editing software. Straight from the camera to the write-up if I decide to do one. I like most of the detailers on here do test spots for the customer most of the time with them standing right there. From there we decide on the level of correction and price point. The majority of customers I have found don't care how it gets to the finished product they just want it to look pristine again.

 

[derek37]

Jeff, those wristbands you're wearing, what do they say?

 

[derek37]

Jeff, I noticed in watching your semi-tractor video above that you have a big metal peace sign on your watch, man that is supercool dude!! Do you make those, sell them? I would love to have one of those, or heck, maybe a few more of them for gifts, that would be awesome, hook me up man!



Oh by the way, are you ever concerned about your kickass watch scratching the paint? I just assumed most professionals would remove jewerly before working on paint. But what do I know.

 

[David Fermani]

David Fermani: I am going to respectfully request that you hold fast to your above post informing Mr. Suggs that he was receiving his first and last warning about his conduct on the forum. And, in the spirit of fairness, I would also request that you take measures to appropriately reprimand any other members who you feel have crossed the line and behaved in an unprofessional/unbecoming manner in response to Mr. Suggs (and that includes me, should you feel that what I have said in this thread is in any way outside the bounds of what is acceptable forum behavior). This entire situation has escalated to the point that it simply cannot be allowed to continue; this forum is about a group of mature adults who care about this industry doing all we can to educate both industry insiders and the consumer public about proper cosmetic care and reconditioning. These types of side shows detract from what is otherwise a noble mission and even if they are driving increased forum traffic, I feel it is for totally the wrong reasons. Thank you for your consideration.

I totally agree and will do so. I really hope that everyone can contain themselves here. Let's refrain from throwing insults and innuendos that aren't needed. If Jeff is willing to keep an open mind, keep things professional and discuss his methods then let's do the same or avoid posting. At the end of the day we are detailers and we all don't do the same kind of processes/procedures or use the same products. That's what Autopia is about.....keeping an open mind and discussing all things detailing. We also all measure success in different ways too. What is great for one my not be for the other. Differences of opinions are fine and healthy for interesting communication. Let's stay within those boundries and hope to walk away with knowing more than we did when we 1st started.

 

[Concours.John]

I totally agree and will do so. I really hope that everyone can contain themselves here. Let's refrain from throwing insults and innuendos that aren't needed. If Jeff is willing to keep an open mind, keep things professional and discuss his methods then let's do the same or avoid posting. At the end of the day we are detailers and we all don't do the same kind of processes/procedures or use the same products. That's what Autopia is about.....keeping an open mind and discussing all things detailing. We also all measure success in different ways too. What is great for one my not be for the other. Differences of opinions are fine and healthy for interesting communication. Let's stay within those boundries and hope to walk away with knowing more than we did when we 1st started.

I agree. I have been more than willing to provide an overspray removal link of work. My concern was more based on an objective conversation vrs defamation based on ego or initial confrontation.



I hope that Charles, David and others know from my work I am coming from an objective opinion.

 

[Ron Ketcham]

Oh man, this thread is like driving down the interstate and seeing a 'bad" accident.

It's so bad, the damage is everywhere, the emergency response units are there, the squad cars are all around, lights flashing, and when we get alook, it's an old VW beetle and the driver is out and doing a dance to show that they are bullet proof.

All the use of resources, all those people who want to be of assistance, other drivers are held back from getting to where they need to be.

For what, this thread is liking watching such or a train wreck.

As Forrest Gump said so well, "Stupid is as stupid does".

I will not go on with the "box of chocolates", as some times, no matter how hard one digs in a box, there are, as in this thread, "no chocolates' to be obtained.

Perhaps, some dried dog "feces" that may look like chocolates, but in this case, which it appears, that those feces is all we can gain.