Is this true?

jlift

jlift

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I got the below quote from this link:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Never-Wax-Your-Car-Again_W0QQitemZ4587440491QQcategoryZ72454QQcmdZViewItem

"Car waxes do not provide the long term protection necessary to guard against this type of damage. Most car waxes are made from inexpensive carnauba waxes and we all know what happens to wax when it gets hot-it melts! Once the wax gets hot , it becomes sticky and starts attracting and holding dirt and pollutants next to your car's paint. "

I am new to detailing and have already ordered several products, one of then being collinite wax. I am wondering if the above statement is true? Can heat + a waxed car atrract and hold dirt and pollutants? Now I need to know before I wax my card....just when I was getting ready to do some detailing.....now this!!

Thanks...

Jack.
 
I would agree with that statement although I have no scientific proof other than to say when my car gets dirty/dusty with a wax on it it seems to hold more dirt/dust than if my car is/was topped with a sealant. That said I find some waxes attract more dirt/dust than others. I myself put down quite a few coats of sealant(3 to 4) and many coats of wax. Also I wash my car at least once a week.I have never noticed any damage to the paint caused by this dirt/dust.
As for the advertisement I would say it's hype.
Hope this helps.
 
Is there not something put into paste waxes to harded them, and prevent them from running off for lack of better terms.

What I think about that ebay add is they are using hype for those that don't know any better to sell the product...the gal in the bathing suit is a cheap shot at "sex sells" They are praying on people that think that can use this micrale product on not have to wax there cars again.

Again hype is all that is
 
Jack,
I have heard that waxes have a lower "boiling point" than sealants, and for this reason I do NOT wax my cars here in AZ in the summer time. Instead I use sealants & have not had a problem with them "attracting" dust - the dust is everywhere, but it blows off well cared for paint as you drive. Which is great, because I am not as regular in my car-washing as Rabbi!
Norah

PS - I did read the ad, and I agree with Beemberboy.
 
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Paint Sealant - Never Wax or Polish Your Car Again!
i noticed at the bottom of her ad the logo say's paint protection specialist.i'm guessing this may be related to another e-bayer eradioprez that sells this product as an acrylic in a couple 2 oz bottles one is the a paint cleaner the other is the acrylic paint protection. last year i bought the smaller version i was surprised after using the cleaner the paint was so slick you had to work the acrylic into the paint the end results where a nice shiney finish and very slick. this is not an endorsement.
 
Hype...that’s it, I also live in AZ but dust is something that is going to happen no matter what but it has never hurt anything if you follow the procedures mentioned on this site.
 
jlift said:
I am new to detailing and have already ordered several products, one of then being collinite wax.
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While I have no idea what happens to waxes or sealants, one thing I do have an idea about. You will like the Collinite wax. If you bought the Insulator Wax, it will be easy on, easy off. If you bought their paste, it will be a lot more work, but still be a good product.

Charles
 
"Car waxes do not provide the long term protection necessary to guard against this type of damage. Most car waxes are made from inexpensive carnauba waxes and we all know what happens to wax when it gets hot-it melts! Once the wax gets hot , it becomes sticky and starts attracting and holding dirt and pollutants next to your car's paint. "
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Well, depending on how you look at it, it can be true. As mentioned, waxes do melt. However, wax is *usually* applied fairly thinly, so it isn't going to coagulate or run off the car in gobs. As also mentioned, Sealants have a higher melting point than typical waxes (but they can melt too). The type of wax also matters, as there are bees wax, montan wax, carnauba wax, and even synthetic waxes, each one with different melting points.
Another way of reading the statement on melting could be with the emphasis on *most* - MOST car waxes.... This would imply that the majority of waxes available and/or bought are made with inferior/cheap ingredients. If this is so, then one would also expect that the end results/durability wouldn't be of the highest level. This is not to say that all waxes are made with "inexpensive carnauba," or even that the "inexpensive carnauba" is the key protective ingredient. Some companies may put only a very little carnauba wax in their product, and use it solely for marketing (most people have heard that a carnauba wax is the best, maybe from a friend, their dad, whatever.). The product may actually be mostly a sealant or synthetic wax that far outlasts a "pure" carnauba wax, but the company just added the carnauba so as to appeal to a broader audience. In this case, the melting of the carnauba would be virtually inconsequential.
As I seem to be rambling, I'll end with just one more point, then conclude. "Car waxes do not provide the long term protection..." Car waxes are MEANT to be a sacrificial layer. They aren't intended to last forever. They are meant to save the paint. (It sacrifices itself for the good of the paint. How noble!) Yes, one usually wants a wax that will last longer than a day, but there gets to be too many scuffs, scratches and such inflicted upon the car throughout the year during typical daily driving to leave it alone for a year (or 3, or 5, or...) and still expect it to look factory fresh all the time.
So, in conclusion, Yes, what was said could be said to be true. However, much of it is "half-truths" or sensationalism aimed at the ill-informed with the intent to scare them into buying their product instead of someone else's.
 
Carnuba waxes do not last very long. Period. But they shine up nicely. Carnuba waxes are more for the enthusiast imo. If you are a professional and are going to offer some type of verbal assurance that some protection will remain for a time period, go with a polymer based. I believe that the newest paste waxes are adding polymers for the lasting protection.
Myself personally, I enjoy waxing the truck every couple of weeks, so I don't really care about a product that lasts 6 months. I have recently tried some different polymer based products for testing purposes, and the durability far exceeds the carnuba based waxes. But the best shine I have ever gotten was from carnuba waxes, not polymers.
 
magicman411 said:
Carnuba waxes do not last very long. Period. But they shine up nicely. Carnuba waxes are more for the enthusiast imo. If you are a professional and are going to offer some type of verbal assurance that some protection will remain for a time period, go with a polymer based. I believe that the newest paste waxes are adding polymers for the lasting protection.
Myself personally, I enjoy waxing the truck every couple of weeks, so I don't really care about a product that lasts 6 months. I have recently tried some different polymer based products for testing purposes, and the durability far exceeds the carnuba based waxes. But the best shine I have ever gotten was from carnuba waxes, not polymers.
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It would be hard to give any kind of assurance not knowing how the owner is going to treat a car....the best sealant that is sent through a car wash six times probably would not live up to any assurance given.
And.....My Colinite Margue will normally give me 8 weeks on my truck.
 
The fact that "she" is selling a 'superior' product after telling us that waxes are crap, makes me instantly doubt what "she" has to say. I fully agree with Big Leegr about 'half-truths.' It's like being "sort of" pregnant...no such thing, you either are, or you are not.

I could say that vegatable oil is the best coating you can put on your paint. It creates a wet/glossy appearance that prevents bugs, sap and other debris from sticking to your paint and that all you now need is water to wash your car...No Soap!!

This is a perfect example of a "half truth." Everything I said is the truth (OK, except maybe for Veggie Oil being the best thing for your paint). I knew of MANY people who used PAM cooking spray on the front ends of thier cars before long trips to prevent bugs from sticking...once they get where they'd going, they'd use a self-serve wash to hose everything off the front end...the bugs supposedly came off really nice :wink:

But does that mean we should all junk our Poorboy's, Mothers, Zaino, Meguiars etc...I don't think so. I think I'll stick with being OC and regularly applying sealants and topping them with WAX, thank you very much

PS: yes, they are decent breasts PEI :yes:
 
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