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dbesins

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After spending too much time on customers car, I decided it was time to take care of my baby, a 06 mitsu evo MR tarmace black.

I noticed a lot more swirls on the hood, and as I baught the car used I am 99% sure that the hood has been repainted.

-I started using white pad with 106 and after wipe down noticed that the swirls are still there...

-I then took LC orange and SIP mixed with a coule drops of 106 and... buffer induced swirls everywhere

-Finally took a green LC pad (from AG just less agressive the white) and 106 and 99% of the swirls out but once again after wiping the hood new swirls appear

-At this point I start to belive that wiping the polish off induced new swirls, as I was wipping using vertical motion and swirls seemed to follow that direction.

-To confirm I redid a quick pass with green and 106 and wiped using horizontal motion and sure thing the swirls were horizontal!



please note that I am using quality MF from cobra or detailers domain...



Is this possible? the repainted part (that looks really good) have a clearcoat that swirls so easily? has this never happened to you?



At this point I am thinking about getting the most swirls out and order a glaze that fills remaining swirls (as I never fill and finish customer car as close to perfection as possible) and of course it is my car that has a problem!:wall



what do you guys think
 
after being very carefull I did a final pass with menz FP 85rd there was still a lot of very light swirls from wipping the polish off.

But as I love the looks of meg's show car glaze (#7) after applying it when I went remove it... horrible! I put a million fine swirls! So I called it a day and put a coat of souv..

PLease guys need some help. it never happened to me. I might have to get it repainted
 
Carbonblue: thanks. I did QD and prepall wipe

I know it sounds so odd! that s why I posted that thread I have never seen that on any other car paint even repaint, and I ll try another part of the car tomorow to see if it reacts different (I already did a quick test on a door with sun light only and it seemed no to react the same)
 
It's definitely possible. I've worked on a number of re-sprayed cars with paint so prone to marring simply wiping polish residue away can inflict damage. Actually, the most expensive respray I've ever worked on is like that...it's annoying.
 
Picus: when it happened to you the damage you talked about was it really fine swirls? the more you wipe the more the swirls appear and in the same direction you re wiping?



shine: well I have tryed alchohol (prepsall?not sure of the spelling) and nothing changed.

Also it got worst wiping glaze off (residue is a little harder then polish residue) so many swirls! but the repainted part looks really good (color match etc..)

I am pretty sure the hood as been repainted because the car took a hit on the front right to the point where the headlight has been changed, and the fender/bumper support (around the front of the engine) as been badly repainted (paint id coming off on the right side).
 
I forgot PICUS it is really frustrating (espacially when it is my car and it looks worst then my customers) how did you end up doing on those cars? In my case there is no way to get it to look swirl free ( I tryed everything I think)
 
dbesins said:
Is this possible? the repainted part (that looks really good) have a clearcoat that swirls so easily? has this never happened to you?
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yep I had a repaint like this

I think mine was because the paint did not cure correctly because it was waxed too soon:nono
 
dbesins said:
Picus: when it happened to you the damage you talked about was it really fine swirls? the more you wipe the more the swirls appear and in the same direction you re wiping?
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Yes, they almost looked like little rainbows. Before anyone asks, it was not polishing oil. I had three guys there, we swapped mf's over and over, tried probably 10 different combos of pad/product and method of removal; every time we would remove them with 85rd/blue or something they would come right back when the polishing oil was removed. Yes, they were in the same direction I was wiping.



In the end I compounded the car, then polished, polished some more, and then washed with some of the residue still on the car. I used 2x the recommended dilution of citrus wash & gloss which took the oils off. The car was still not perfect, there was definitely very light mf induced marks here and there. The owner was around the entire time (and taking part in the conversation) so he understood.



One tip; on that car at least it seemed the paint was more prone to marring when hot. I moved my halogens back and waited a minute before wiping the the residue away (lightly, I didn't take it all off with the mf). This did seem to mitigate the damage.
 
thanks PICUS! I think I am having the exact same problem! I am going to look for a good painter in the area to redo the hood...

I did the exact same thing tryed all combos dozen different MF and the glaze removal step was a big mistake a created so many more swirls

I might try your techniques, not remooving oils letting it cool etc thanks again for the help PICUS!
 
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