Is ONR your favorite wash product?

In the middle of June they finally paved my neighborhood road, it only took 7 years.



Now that my trucks stay cleaner, compared to the dust and mud, I have been using ONR only to wash them.



It is fast and easy. I don't need to move a truck out into my yard and drag out the hose and PW anymore. I can wash my trucks at 1am when I get home, too. I work nights, so it is hard to get time to wash otherwise.



I will still use the PW a few times a year to clean up the frame and chassis of the trucks.
 
I'm more in bufferbarry's camp when it comes to ONR. It's OK, it has it's place, but it can't do everything.



There are so many threads attesting to the popularity of ONR, yet no one ever wants to discuss it's limits. Supposedly, it works by "encapsulating" dirt. Meaning, that the ONR solution will lift dirt from the surface and suspend it in the solution until it's dried off. Well, how much dirt can it hold? There MUST be a saturation point. I think this idea is alluded to when people ask how well the stuff works on the super dirty areas of the car like wheels and jambs. But so far, the only answer has been "yeah, you can use it for that". Just because you CAN, doesn't mean that you SHOULD



Can you mix a higher concentration and increase the 'encapsulation' capacity? In my experience, mixing higher concentration just leads to more 'smearing'.



I can certainly understand the convenience factor for a mobile detailer. I can certainly understand the eco-friendly angle. I DON'T understand the people in the 'pleasant smell' camp. Maybe I just got a bad bottle because mine smells like a nursing home hallway where someone just farted.
 
I was very skeptical at first, I have now used it maybe 20 times on not very dirty cars. I think it works well like that, but but on dirty wheels, fender wells and tires I still prefer to use a hose. I also don't like to get my garage floor too dirty, so I still have to get the hose to clean up the mess if I only use ONR.

If I parked outside all the time I think it would work better to use the methods described with a sprayer+APC+ a few buckets of ONR..



About the smell, the old version smelled pretty bad, but the new version has a nice citrus smell to it. It stays blue also, the old one turned brown pretty fast..
 
I've wiped down a few panels with ONR... It's OK for not-so-dirty cars.

But, as a painter, getting into the crevices is important for me; i need

water and air for that. You'd be amazed at all the dirt/crap behind parts;

lamps, moldings, bumpers, drip rails, etc.



I'm still on the fence with ONR... I'd be more inclined to use it if i could

spray it on, gently rinse and wipe clean.
 
Mark77 said:
I was very skeptical at first, I have now used it maybe 20 times on not very dirty cars. I think it works well like that, but but on dirty wheels, fender wells and tires I still prefer to use a hose. I also don't like to get my garage floor too dirty, so I still have to get the hose to clean up the mess if I only use ONR.
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It took me about seven months of ONR washes to finally realize that I could wash my wheels and wheelwells the old fashioned way and then ONR the rest of the car. ... Just call me Homer Simpson--D'OH!
 
I just washed my xterra for the first time in about a month, apart from the $5 spray and rinse place (touchless = crap, just better than nothing) Took a break from the polishing on the AUDI. I used CG CWG and really like the stuff. I have it at the strip wax dilution since I plan on polishing my own car sometime in the next couple of weeks. Super slick washing that removed everything with ease. I maintain a fresh detailing usually with ONR everyweek, but when you get so backed up and cant wash a car in a month, ONR might not cut it!



Plus like Flashtime mentioned, washing crevices and creases is prtty tough with ONR and a grout sponge. On the other hand, not having to lug around a PW and big water tank, eating up more gas, its worth it to strictly use ONR for maintanence washes (the few that I want/have)
 
Accumulator said:
I bet you're really happy about that! I dunno *how* you dealt with it the way it was.
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I heard the news in about april I think, I was :clap:!



The only reason I bought the house was I got a good deal, new construction with 3 acres. I was told by the city/county/and the builder that the road was scheduled to be paved by the next fall at the latest. So I figured 1 year wouldn't be so bad--it turned into almost 8.



The *how*, I have explained. It involved a PW/foam Cannon/ONR follow-up. :woot:



I also have baby trees still, no shade! That is why how I got on the ONR at first.



My neighbors think I am *crazy*. Not the figurative, ha ha crazy, either.:hide:



They would see me wash my truck(PW)/then pull into the workshop and wash the truck(ONR).
 
As stated above, there are limits to the ONR magic. Caked on mud, running out of every panel-gap and molding. Burned in brake dust and bugs. Getting the underbody and small places that will drip mud when you *think* its clean.



I came across all of those things in my weekly washes before the paving. That is what drove me to the method I outlined.





Once I got the vehicles clean, they don't get real bad from 1-2 weeks. ONR makes a great wash for that. A few times a year I will still be blasting all of the nooks/crannies out.... Its too much fun.





My toy never actually gets real dirty, so with ONR I don't have to get it real wet very often either.
 
toyotaguy said:
I just washed my xterra for the first time in about a month...[when I ].. Took a break from the polishing on the AUDI...
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Heh heh, you took a break from that black Audi and spent the downtime washing your car?!? Sheesh, that's some real dedication there.

Flashtime said:
I've wiped down a few panels with ONR... It's OK for not-so-dirty cars.

But, as a painter, getting into the crevices is important for me; i need

water and air for that. You'd be amazed at all the dirt/crap behind parts;

lamps, moldings, bumpers, drip rails, etc...
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That's kinda my take on ONR too. The way my foamgun (perhaps because of my boosted pressure) and compressor blast stuff out of inaccessible areas, I just can't consider ONR a direct substitute for my usual wash methods even if I leave the issue of potential marring out of the picture.



But hey, when I set my pal up with stuff to wash his '60 Jag, I put together an ONR-based approach; it was simply a better way for *him* to go about it. Different strokes/etc....
 
Waterless wash systems are fairly new. Would be great to see one that doesn't

enhance gloss and just leaves the surface clean and bare like iso.



From OPT:

"This unique product contains substantive polymers which bond to the paint and protect it during the wash. Therefore, No Rinse� Wash & Shine offers greater protection and lubricity than conventional car washes leaving a sleek & glossy finish behind afterwards..."



Doesn't look like a good product to use on fresh paint.



I just get the feeling that these "gloss enhancers" are to hide whatever marring

that happens durring the process.



Chemical Guys Waterless system...looks scary to use. Spray on and wipe off!

If it works that good, actually encapsulates the dirt efficiently, couldn't a rinse

"float" it all away? Obviously not.



I bet it's only a matter of time, till such a product comes to market...
 
Flashtime- Thre's a product called Quick and Easy Wash ("QEW") that seems to leave less stuff behind than ONR.



As per the other thread we have going, these products are supposedly OK on fresh repaints (not that *I* have ever used them on it).
 
I have been and am still using grout sponges cut like the blue overpriced LC ones. I have been doing that since using ONR and it kills me as I feel I could have made a buck or two of the grating they cut into it :)
 
Flashtime said:
From OPT:

"This unique product contains substantive polymers which bond to the paint and protect it during the wash. Therefore, No Rinse� Wash & Shine offers greater protection and lubricity than conventional car washes leaving a sleek & glossy finish behind afterwards..."



Doesn't look like a good product to use on fresh paint.
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The polymers are soy based and in no way seal the paint. That is what you want to avoid, sealing the paint which inhibits curing. Used ONR right from the get go when my 626 got hit in the front end and repainted. Zero problems.



I just get the feeling that these "gloss enhancers" are to hide whatever marring that happens durring the process.
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Are you serious? Have you actually used ONR?
 
Are you serious? Have you actually used ONR?
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I apologize how that came out. Obviously it works great for you.

My first post was about ONR. Yes, i've used it. Not strong enough

for my needs. But, it works fine for interiors.



3M Body Shop Clean Up Car wash soap works well enough for me.
 
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