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Tazman7

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Last weekend I baught a 7336 Porter Cable Polisher and I went to a Detailing Shop by my house to buy some pads and Meguiars Products. I told him that I already have Meguiars Show Car Glaze #7 and I needed something to remove some minor swirls. He recommened Meguiars Swirl Remover. I then told him that I wanted to get a wax #26 (I think thats what it is).

Because after reading post's on this site and how I have done it in the past by hand is: Wash/Clay/Polish/Glaze/Wax. Because that is how I always though it was supposed to be done, and I have always had good results doing it that way.

Then he told me that the only thing I would need to do to get the swirls out is: Wash/Use swirl remover/Glaze Then I said well shouldnt I wax after I put the glaze on and he said that I didnt need to. And I said well shouldnt I clay it before too? And he said that will put more scratches in it than it has in it now. Is this guy a moron or is he telling me the truth? Because I always thought that then last thing you should always do is wax because that is what "protects" the paint?!?!
 
Well, technically, he is both right and wrong. He is right that

you do not need to use a wax after the glaze. However, most

glazes are really for limited proection, and very short term

improvement of the paint. Glazes are what we use in the body

shop, to give the paint a shinier look while the paint cures.

But the glaze does not last very long though. After maybe the

first or second wash (depending on how anal you are), the

glaze will seriously degrade to nothing. Also, if you plan on

using #7, I would probably go with something else other than

#26. 26 does have some cleaning ability, so it will remove

some if the #7. Try going with a low solvent wax like meguiar's

Professional Paste (#16), or just forgoe the glaze and just

apply #26 by itself.



As for claying, it can scratch since its purpose is to

pull up debris stuck on the paint. If you pull up heavy debris,

it may still be sticking out of the clay and then when you press

down to rub, you get scratches. This is where you need to be

careful about inspecting the clay and folding it often during it's

use. So yes, it can potentially scratch paint, but only if you are

not careful in the way you use it. Just be sure to keep the

clay and the paint surface well lubricated, and take your time.

After you're done, you do happen to find some scratches, use the

swirl remover, and apply your last step products.



Good luck and be sure to post some picks of your results.
 
Well, I think he IS nuts for suggesting to not use a wax in Illinois...if it was SoCal, maybe but going into winter in IL without wax is NUTS.

usdm...are you sure #26 has cleaners? I always thought it was a pure wax.
 
#26 does not have any cleaning ability. It will NOT remove any of the #7. I have been using #7 topped with #26 for years and it is an awesome combo that is really hard to beat.



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Well, we agree to disagree. I have found that 26 (at least my can) does have cleaning ability. Maybe not as much as a dedicated cleaner wax, but I found that it does have the ability

to remove minor grime and such.
 
Well, I guess we can argue this all day, but my bottle of #7 Show Car Glaze says right on the back to protect it by following with #26, and that ends that discussion, as far as I'm concerned.
 
sprtslvr785 said:
I then told him that I wanted to get a wax #26 (I think thats what it is). Because after reading post's on this site and how I have done it in the past by hand is: Wash/Clay/Polish/Glaze/Wax. Because that is how I always though it was supposed to be done, and I have always had good results doing it that way.

Then he told me that the only thing I would need to do to get the swirls out is: Wash/Use swirl remover/Glaze Then I said well shouldnt I wax after I put the glaze on and he said that I didnt need to.
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People detail their cars in many, many ways. Some even detail one car a certain way, and another car another way. It's all a matter of personal preference and experience. Do what works for you.









Originally posted by sprtslvr785 And I said well shouldnt I clay it before too? And he said that will put more scratches in it than it has in it now. Is this guy a moron or is he telling me the truth? Because I always thought that then last thing you should always do is wax because that is what "protects" the paint?!?!
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Well, if they guy gets more scratches on his paint by claying, then yes, he IS a moron. Either he's not using a lube, or he's using the clay past its useful life (too many particles in the clay). Once clay gets loaded up with IFO (particles), continuing to use the clay will definitely scratch the paint.



You are right, claying is usually done on a surface with no wax (polish, sealer, whatever) on it, and you should follow up with the W, P, or S of your choice.



Charles
 
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