Is carnauba obsolete?

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wannafbody

wannafbody
with the great polymer sealants available are carnaubas obsolete? Or do they have a decided edge in the show car community?
 
I use it on my daily drivers. I like to use sealents for the durability and protection but I always always top with a wax. I like the carnauba glow, it's much nicer then the sealants. So no i dont think that carnauba is obsolete. I know i will continue to use it
 
As much as I love the shine of a sealant, I always prefer the warmth and depth of a quality carnauba. Call me old fashioned but a detail for me isn't complete without a carnauba paste wax. :)
 
No wai you're taking my carnuuuba(s) away from me
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No way! That's like asking if Wendy's is obsolete because a Burger King just opened up. There will always be a place for both products in the detailing world (no not Wendy's & Burger King!).

Like with all detailing choices the two products are different and yield a different result. Both certainly are good products, but there will always be people who prefer one look over the other.

Personally, IMO the only thing sealants have over carnaubas is the durability factor. Again IMO, carnaubas definitely are the winner in the looks category (I know others will not agree this is just my opinion). Being that durability is inconsequential to me, except during the winter, I will always continue to use carnaubas.
 
Is carnauba obsolete? Nope, not yet and I don't see that day coming in the immediate future. Nothing leaves a finish that looks quite like carnauba and way too many people want this particular look. Don't get me wrong I too use sealants, not on every detail but there is never a car that I don't use a carnauba on. I just haven't found a sealant that I love the look of all by itself. The only time a sealant is the top coat on my finish is while it's curing over night.:)
 
High quality carnaubas offer stunning results in terms of depth of shine, paint sharpness, and luster that IMO sealants and synthetics still have a hard time matching.

Synthetics have come a long way, however. Many synthetics offer very good results which rivals some carnauba based products, while providing good user friendly convenience and good durability.
 
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wannafbody said:
with the great polymer sealants available are carnubas obsolete? Or do they have a decided edge in the show car community?
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For me it is dead.
carnuba is what I used on my show car until this summer when I tried Duragloss never got so many comments about the look of my car when i was using Souveran. NO more carnuba for me.
I have finally found my way into the 21 century. :smile
When I found something that looks better lasts longer and cost less then I use it.
 
Bart, man I'm glad you posted - I felt kinda like I was hung out at Talladega while the other cars got in a line and went by! I keep hearing about DG, man I've got to get some and try it - but if my wife finds out I bought something else before I ran out of WG sealer - I'm busted! She already bought me my Christmas present - Makita 9227, should arrive Friday (I hope). Bart, back to DG, does it matter what you use for prep before you do PBA & 105? I have WG swirl remover and glaze along with XMT #3, #1 and glaze and some Meg's stuff- could I use them for prep before DG?
 
Junebug said:
does it matter what you use for prep before you do PBA & 105?
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I think it matters, and not just on what products you use. The whole "prep" process is the key, and without proper prep whatever LSP you use will never look it's best.

And, no, I think carnauba still has a place in the detailing world.
 
Junebug said:
Bart, man I'm glad you posted - I felt kinda like I was hung out at Talladega while the other cars got in a line and went by! I keep hearing about DG, man I've got to get some and try it - but if my wife finds out I bought something else before I ran out of WG sealer - I'm busted! She already bought me my Christmas present - Makita 9227, should arrive Friday (I hope). Bart, back to DG, does it matter what you use for prep before you do PBA & 105? I have WG swirl remover and glaze along with XMT #3, #1 and glaze and some Meg's stuff- could I use them for prep before DG?
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I would think you could use any polish as long as you use the bonding agent. When I did my Ranger I used Meg #80 and did not use the PBA I just put the 105 on and after more than four months it still looks just as good as the day I put it on. When parked in my garage the Black looks so wet and a foot deep. When I drive it I can't help but notice how people stare at it. Once when at Wal-Mart this guy walked by my truck and he was turned looking backward at the truck and walked out in front of a car. My wife tells me I'm going to cause an accident with it :smile
 
lbls1 said:
High quality carnaubas offer stunning results in terms of depth of shine, paint sharpness, and luster that IMO sealants and synthetics still have a hard time matching.

Synthetics have come a long way, however. Many synthetics offer very good results which rivals some carnauba based products, while providing good user friendly convenience and good durability.
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Now I had to answer. I am with lbls1, there are great sealants there but STILL Carnauba forever!
 
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Carnuba and carburetors are both in my past. Don't have a need for either of them anymore. :yay
 
I have to say I am amazed by the number of people who answered "no" compared to those who said "yes." I would have thought there would be a few more "yes" answers. So many people use paint sealants these days (personally I credit the durability for that) but I guess I didn't consider how many people like to use both a wax and a sealant at the same time. I think the overwhelming number of people who use both shows that a sealant on it's own at this time cannot produce the depth of shine produced by wax.
 
I'm of the leaning that carnauba is obsolete for any type of daily driver. Waxes absorb dirt more than good sealants. If I had a trailer queen I might use a show carnauba but I think better results could be obtained with a sealant topped with an oily glaze like Megs #5. Maybe I'm wrong tho.
 
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