Is #80 alot more agressive then #82

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ACURA95

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Recently, I purchased Dacp, #80, #7, #16. I planned on applying them in the same order listed above. My question is should I be using #82 vs. #80 after Dacp? I just realized #80 is more aggressive then #82 and possibly close to the level of #83. This might be a good question for you Mike.



TIA
 
Thats a tricky question. Here is how they are ranked on Meguiars scale.



#82=3

#80=4

#83=6



Does that correlate directly to how much more abrassive one product is to the next, no. For example, although #80 is more abrassive than #82, the abbrassives in #80 break down much faster than those is #82 so technically it could be possible that #82 could wind up being just as effective as #80 in certain circumstances. There is really no clear cut way to rank these products with exact certainty.



Hope that makes sense.



Having said that my preference would be fore #82 because you can work it longer.
 
Thanks for your advice but I already ordered and recieved the #80 so I am going to try that first I think. I just wanted to be able to remove any hazing caused by #83. Is this a common problem for you. What pads do you use?



Keep in mind, Im just starting to build my arsenal and I will eventually give #82 a try as well.
 
The main reason people see hazing from DACP is that they don't work it long enough to completely break down the abrassives in it. DACP is perfectly capable of producing a perfectly clear surface that is ready for wax. I usually set my PC to 5 and work it until it is almost dry. I stop at the first sign of powdery residue. I wipe it off and then inspect the area and repeat if necessary. I pretty much stick to the Meguiars 8006 polishing pad.



I think you will be fine with #80. It is not that much more agressive than #82.
 
Thanks Bob



I just hope I didnt waste my money buying the #80 and #7. I didnt know If I should use Dacp for regular maintainance or if #80 would be better. Am I taking unnecessary steps



1. #83

2. #80

3. #7

4. #16



What should I use for regular maintainence? TIA
 
I use #82 for regular maintenance and #83 for more severe problems. They are a good place to start but, that doesn't mean they are going to be the best products for your situation. There are a lot of variables that come into play like the hardness of your paint, the environment your car lives in and the techniques used to care for your paint to name a few. It is going to take some experimenting to find the product that works best for you so I would say that NO you did not waste your money buying #80 and #7.
 
Do you follow #82 with a Pure polish such as #7 or do you go straight to wax. My paint is seriously neglected and actually has a sort of white haze over it because it is so badly oxidized. However, I was told this was normal for single stage neglected paint.



I was going to order 6 1/2 Cma pads to save a little cash and I got a 5" standard hook and loop plate with my PC. What is the comparable pad to 8006? Do you have any experience with these flexible plates? Wondering if its worth the investment.
 
ACURA95 said:
Do you follow #82 with a Pure polish such as #7 or do you go straight to wax. My paint is seriously neglected and actually has a sort of white haze over it because it is so badly oxidized. However, I was told this was normal for single stage neglected paint.



I was going to order 6 1/2 Cma pads to save a little cash and I got a 5" standard hook and loop plate with my PC. What is the comparable pad to 8006? Do you have any experience with these flexible plates? Wondering if its worth the investment.
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The #7 is great therapy for tired ss paint; that's what it was really designed for, so yeah, use it after the #82.



The comparable CMA/Lake polishing pads are the white ones (can't remember the part #). The flex plate is probably *my* favorite for the PC, but if you're already trying to save money by price-shopping pads I'd guess that it's not worth the cost. It's not really all that flexible anyhow.
 
ACURA95 said:


I was going to order 6 1/2 Cma pads to save a little cash and I got a 5" standard hook and loop plate with my PC. What is the comparable pad to 8006? Do you have any experience with these flexible plates? Wondering if its worth the investment.
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Meguiars sells a 3 pack containing 2 polishing pads and a finishing pad for $25. I believe that is cheaper than you can get similar pads from CMA. Meguiars Manufacturing, Warehouse and Shipping are now out of Tennessee so it should get to you in a couple of days.



Go to http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_list.cfm?store=meg&line=auto&catagory=8&subcatagory=2 and scroll to the bottom of the page. The part number is WDAV99-B.
 
My two cents is that Speed Glaze #80 is a great follow-up to DACP, and a great regular maintenance polish as well. It's become my new go-to. I like it a lot better than #82. It doesn't feel particularly aggressive, and should be great at removing any hazing DACP is leaving behind.



It might vary on the paint, etc as to whether DACP will haze for you. Also, sometimes it can be hard to tell as it may be a very mild dulling and the paint will look pretty damn good. But a followup pass on a section will reveal that the paint can look even better and that it was slightly hazed. :nixweiss
 
I agree with Bob (aurora Bob) about #80. It is the new hotness!



Best thing about it is that it starts off a bit more aggressively than #82 (pretty close to #83, IMO) but breaks down even finer than #82 does. Seems to have a lot of #81's polishing oils in it.



I've found #80/NXT to be a very good two step process on paint with light to moderate defects.
 
rjstaaf said:
Meguiars sells a 3 pack containing 2 polishing pads and a finishing pad for $25. I believe that is cheaper than you can get similar pads from CMA. Meguiars Manufacturing, Warehouse and Shipping are now out of Tennessee so it should get to you in a couple of days.



Go to http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_list.cfm?store=meg&line=auto&catagory=8&subcatagory=2 and scroll to the bottom of the page. The part number is WDAV99-B.
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That is a seriously good deal. Even at my local Meguiars distributer, I pay $10 a pad. Of course, no shipping and I can get it that day.
 
Aurora,

That definitely is a good deal but Cma still has their sale for LC pads around $7.00 each. This might be better for me because I have no pads at all and I can get two of each. I actually just got my Dacp, #80, #7, shipped from Meguiars and it was extremely fast. I ordered it on Monday and recieved it on Thursday.WOW!!



One benefit of ordering from Cma is there located a couple hours north of me and they told me It only takes a day after the order is placed.
 
If you do get the CMA pads just keep in mind that the yellow CMA cutting pad is quite a bit more agressive than the Meguiars 8006 polishing pad. I have gotten micro-marring using the CMA yellow pad with DACP even when breaking down DACP completely. Not a big deal you just follow up with #80 or #82 but, this is something I have never seen with the Meguiars 8006 pad.



Here is a side by side comparison between the Meguiars 8006 polishing pad (left) and the CMA yellow cutting pad (right). If you look at them you can see the Meguiars pad is more closed cell than the CMA and the CMA is also a bit firmer. Both I believe contribute to more agressiveness. Again, not a bad thing just something to keep in mind. I typically only use the CMA yellow pad if DACP and the 8006 aren't enough.



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ACURA95 said:
Aurora,

That definitely is a good deal but Cma still has their sale for LC pads around $7.00 each. This might be better for me because I have no pads at all and I can get two of each. I actually just got my Dacp, #80, #7, shipped from Meguiars and it was extremely fast. I ordered it on Monday and recieved it on Thursday.WOW!!



One benefit of ordering from Cma is there located a couple hours north of me and they told me It only takes a day after the order is placed.
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Meguiars manufacturing, warehouse and shipping are in Tennessee. Manufacturing has been there for a long time but, they just recently relocated the warehouse and shipping to Tennessee as well.
 
rjstaff,

Is it just the picture or does that meguiars pad look much bigger than the cma pad? After using Dacp, #80 etc and both type of pads which ones do you reccomend. My plan was to try out the cma white polishing pad w/dacp first and if it doesnt produce the results I want Ill step up to the yellow Cma pad.



With the Meguiars pads, I cant do this unless I use the bergendy pad which is meant really for rotaries. What do you think.



By the way, thank you for being so patient with all of my questions.
 
If I was on a limited budget and could only purchase one set of pads, it would be the 3 pak from Meguiars. I have pads from both Meguiars and CMA. My favorite pad though is the Meguiars 8006 with DACP. I also like the CMA orange power pad but, it does have a tendancy to gum up quickly. Your plan does sound fine, I was just trying to pass on my experience. You may not see the same thing I did. The worst that will happen if you get micro-marring with the CMA yellow pad is you will have to step down to the white pad with DACP. Not a bad thing :)



p.s. As to the size difference the 8006 is just a tad larger. The picture seems to make the difference look larger than it actually is.
 
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