I had most of the right side of my Tundra painted last month and they said no wax for 30 days. Well, its been a couple days past 30 and want some opinions on whether or not I can go ahead and apply an lsp or if I should wait even longer than recommended? The paintwork turned out really good, but their finishing work left alot to be desired. Lots of marring and quite a bit of pigtails also. Spent more than a few hours correcting it with the Megs 105 and 205 combo. I will probably apply a coat of NXT tech 2.0 followed with 845 either tmrw or later depending on what you all recommend regarding waiting time. Not sure it makes any difference, but this particular shop uses Glasurit branded paint.
Is 30 days long enough?
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Accumulator
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Whenever I have something reshot with Glaurit I wait at least 60 days and almost always a full 90 (and mine is always baked). I myself would either glaze it or use a presumably fresh-paint-OK LSP like OCW. Not sure where you're located, but 30 days isn't long and cold weather can make a difference too.
Whether you need to wait much at all gets hotly debated here, but I prefer to err (if it is an error
) on the side of caution as I've simply *never* had any problems with my paint ending up less-than-optimally-hard.
Whether you need to wait much at all gets hotly debated here, but I prefer to err (if it is an error
) on the side of caution as I've simply *never* had any problems with my paint ending up less-than-optimally-hard.Accumulator
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clnfrk said:
Even though I stick with Meguiar's #5 (hey, been doing it that way since forever...), I do think the OCW is probably OK. I read how it's been approved by Ford for use on "post-production" paintwork. I dunno if we all oughta trust Ford on everything they say, but it appeared that they tested it out and had a reason to green-light it. Now whether they were measuring hardness or even thinking about that, well...that I can't say :nixweiss
Dr. G from Optimum says it's OK, and he's a bright guy. But then Sal Zaino has said his sealant is OK, and he was a painter, but there's still no way I'd use that on *my* fresh repaints.
imported_DetailDan
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Where did you read about Ford approving OCW? Would like to check that out if possible.
Accumulator
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D&D Auto Detail said:
I can't remember :think:
It *might* have been over on the Optimum Forums site.
Noting that I'm *very* skeptical of "fresh-paint-safe" LSPs, it was a pretty compelling bit of info or I woulda just blown it off.
Sorry, I wish I had a better answer. If somebody needs to know in a "pro reputation on the line" sort of way, I'd contact Optimum and ask for something like a Ford TSB or somesuch documentation. I would think there's gotta be something official on record if they really did approve it.
David Fermani
Forza Auto Salon
clnfrk said:
OCW for the win for sure! Heck, Dr. G even claims that Opti-Coat can be used on fresh paint! Food for thought.....I have a friend that does high end Clear Bra installs and he claims to apply this product to fresh paint on multiple occasions without any adverse effects. Thing to consider is that if the outgassing of the base can go through the clear, it can go through a coat of wax/sealant much easier.
Accumulator
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David Fermani- Heh heh, we could start up our :argue over LSPing fresh paint all over again! Or maybe not :grinno:
imported_mystic04
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For what this is worth to everybody i was speaking to a Dupont paint tech And asked him the age old question on how long after a repaint baked or not before you polish or wax answer was 90 to 120 days.I went the next step and asked is that for just Dupont paint or most paint in general and the answer was most paint in general.SO take it for what it's worth.
I'm in the same position as OP. The wife's car was hit with hail a couple weeks ago and required a respray on the roof. I called Griot's to find out if I could use either their Spray-On wax or Speed Shine (I have both) for the next 30 days and they said that either would work. They said that Speed Shine provides plenty of lubrication to prevent adding swirls and that a few spritz's of Spray-On wax after washing will provide "some" protection against bird bombs and such until I can wax.
I'm sure it won't add as much protection as a full wax job, but reapplied every 3 or 4 days, it may be just enough protection to get you through.
I'm sure it won't add as much protection as a full wax job, but reapplied every 3 or 4 days, it may be just enough protection to get you through.
David Fermani
Forza Auto Salon
mystic04 said:
90-120 days is rediculous! I bet if you asked another rep at thier company they'd say 30-60 days. Extend that to other paint lines and you'd have even more variances in opinion. Then go further and ask a painter and your head will be spinning?
After a week of fresh paint, I used OCW. 36 days after, I tried Megs DC Carnauba Wax. New paint is now on its 43rd day and I see no problem (so far) *fingers crossed* My FK1000P arrives earlier "fresh off the boat", and I am itching to try it.hehe But I will probably consume my NXT 2.0 first.
Accumulator
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David Fermani said:
Heh heh...say what you really think! :chuckle:
I wait that long all the time :nana:
[shoot] I still smell the outgassing after a few months under some conditions (and yeah, that's with baked Glasurit). But then I'm really , *REALLY* paranoid about my paint not getting as hard as possible too.
imported_mystic04
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David Fermani said:
Just telling what i was told so i passed it on.Don't shoot me over it. But i know Dave wasn't trying to shoot me to begin with.
David Fermani
Forza Auto Salon
mystic04 said:
Not at all. Just having a little fun with Accumulator. Inside joke amoung friends.
forrest@mothers
Serious no BS kinda guy
I'm a firm believer in listening to the person who shot the paint. If you have a problem with the finish, he'll be the person to make it right - not the sales rep who sold the paint to the body shop.
Accumulator
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forrest said:
I go both ways on that approach :think: I trust the two guys who shoot my paint these days, but that's because I've gotten to know them really well.
But when painters (who've often already washed the car, wetsanded, polished, and washed again) tell the customer not to wash or polish the car for a month...well, I dunno....people here are always posting about their painters saying the nuttiest stuff.
Guess the real lesson in that is to only do business with honest people who know their stuff, but it can be hard to find those folks.
Is a 30-day waiting period still applicable for modern re-painting? Some of the shops seal up the freshly painted area with the glass coating sealer as the repaint obviously removes the previously applied glass coating. Of course, those shops have high-end paint booth with air cleaner and heater functions.