I see a price difference of about 2.5x when comparing the gallon/4L but that doesn’t take into account the 400:1 recommended dilution of HyperWash vs the 500:1 of Reset. So that might take it to twice as expensive and I don’t know that Reset is twice as good. But those of us that are hobbyists don’t go through as much so the price difference isn’t that big a deal. For a business, obviously that would be different and skewed towards Hyper Wash.
Is 2nd tier Shampoo Good Enough
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I see a price difference of about 2.5x when comparing the gallon/4L but that doesn’t take into account the 400:1 recommended dilution of HyperWash vs the 500:1 of Reset. So that might take it to twice as expensive and I don’t know that Reset is twice as good. But those of us that are hobbyists don’t go through as much so the price difference isn’t that big a deal. For a business, obviously that would be different and skewed towards Hyper Wash.
Dan
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Good points. I was comparing the smaller bottle vs the gallon of Megs. Still $30 vs $90!
dcjredline
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Bah ha ha ha...SOAP? All soap is "2nd tier" IMO.
Coatings=crack
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Sponges scare me
. And getting 10 to wash my car would be quit expensive but yes those and the Esoteric sponges have intrigued me.I do prefer the fine fiber MF mitts a lot more than the noodles.
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Bill D
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They scare the hell out of me too. I’ll only use mitts
Setec Astronomy
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Since we`re way off topic, I`ll jump in and continue--regarding the Kamikaze and Esoteric sponges, I question the wisdom of any wash media being black.
981 Cayman S
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Version 1.0 was a bit too ‘un-supple’ for my tastes but Version 2.0 corrected that…very soft and the diagonal cuts on the flat side resemble Optimums Big Red Sponge for whatever that’s worth.
I’ve gone from wool mitts to noodle mitts to Gyeon Smoothies to Rag Company Cyclones to the Esoteric sponge. Took a bit to get used to the sponge, kinda small in comparison to mitts but after getting used to them, much easier to get into small spaces like the hood vent slats and vents on top of rear fenders on Corvette.Sponges scare me. And getting 10 to wash my car would be quit expensive but yes those and the Esoteric sponges have intrigued me.
I do prefer the fine fiber MF mitts a lot more than the noodles.
The Kami Hagakure sponge is larger so would be helpful on cars like the Cayman with smoother body panels to cover large areas quickly but not a huge issue.
Have been using the sponges for 2 years now, no wash marring I can see; occasionally the microfiber mitts would leave a bit of that after a season of washing. Who knows though, it might just be that the sponges are a better fit for a somewhat ‘careless’ washer like me.
When I lived amongst the trees and washed outside it was actually easier to see or feel any foreign debris on the sponge than it was looking for them buried in a microfiber mitt.
Like anything, largely personal preference and habits that dictate the effectiveness and suitability of a wash media for each person but after using sponges for a few years no detrimental effects that I’ve seen.
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Setec Astronomy
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I wasn`t wading into the sponge-vs.-microfiber mitt debate, I was opining about the color. Wouldn`t it be easier to see foreign debris on a blue or red sponge than a black one? I`m speaking as someone who is irked by ONR staining my yellow microfiber wash media (which are low-pile vs. things like the Incredimitt); black wash media would drive me crazy. I do almost exclusively rinseless now, so being able to see if dirt is still coming off the car onto the wash media is important to me, and I can`t see it if the media is black.
981 Cayman S
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Ah…I see your point. I was always using multi-colored microfiber wash mitts and staring into those was likely akin to a bad acid trip
I think somewhere I have a Big Red Sponge and the yellow McKees equivalent but like many things for me the buying excitement superseded the actual using of them.
I’m too incompetent to do rinseless so by the time wash media touches my paint, the “It’s clean, why are you even washing it?” car has been pressure rinse and foamed so I’d likely not see much dirt with a Lilly-white sponge.
All that said, the sponges are definitely not something you’d wanna use on a muddled-up 4x4 that just crawled out of the woods…much too tender for that usage scenario!
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Setec Astronomy
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Ah…I see your point. I was always using multi-colored microfiber wash mitts and staring into those was likely akin to a bad acid trip
I think somewhere I have a Big Red Sponge and the yellow McKees equivalent but like many things for me the buying excitement superseded the actual using of them.
I`m too cheap to splurge on a BRS, but I did try the Optimum blue one and couldn`t get myself to like it, certainly not as much as I liked grout sponges during that fad. I have tried to like the things like the Incredimitt and Incredipad, but it hasn`t worked yet. I usually use The Bone, or my favorite rinseless media is actually the old Meguiar`s Quik Detail Pads from 2004, which are kind of like The Bone but with a wimpier sponge inside. I did buy a bunch of the TRC MF wash pads when they had them on sale, hoping to try to do the multiple-media wash, which I have been unsuccessful in making myself like, but I haven`t had a chance yet.
Ok, I think this is enough thread-jack, sorry, mobiledynamics.
Sponges scare me
I do prefer the fine fiber MF mitts a lot more than the noodles.
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Maybe i should look for a newer microfiber mitt, i never liked the one i have from detail popo. And i don`t particularly like my 2 simoniz noddle mitts, they are tough however- i had them for quite a while. Usually washed in the automatic washer and air dried.
Thanks for the input guys. Personally i never was bothered staying on topic...maybe the mods go crazy lol
Accumulator
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Two things have kept me from trying it (besides already having many years worth of shampoos that I like just fine) : 1) I gather it`s primarily for coatings, and I don`t want to do *anything* that might compromise the longevity of my LSPs, and 2) I use huge quantities of shampoo with my wash method, and gallons of Reset could get pricey.
I`m still using a roughly 50:50 mix of 3D Pink and Griot`s. The Griot`s is vastly inferior to its previous formulation, but it`s still OK. JustJesus sent me some Poorboy`s stuff that I need to try one of these years, might substitute that for the Griot`s, but it`ll be many years before I get through my current stock, and I`m not experimenting with anything new at present.dgage said:
Dan
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I don`t really like anything Chemical Guys makes but their MF was mitts are excellent.
I swap between the Esoteric Sponge or Carpro`s Dabdab mitt with two buckets, or 5-7 mitts (mix of TRC Cyclone, Supreme Microfiber, and Microfiber Madness) in one bucket depending on what I feel like. Sometimes it`s nice to mix up the washing method for a little variety. I recently bought a TRC Ultra Black sponge for rinseless washing but it`s been too hot and sunny lately to do washing of any kind.
The Esoteric Sponge is extremely soft and squishy. It`s also much smaller than any of the mitts so it`s a much slower and more focused washing experience. The Carpro Dabdab is somewhere in the middle. I have yet to find a noddle mitt I like the feel of.
Carpro Reset has been my go to shampoo for a couple of years and the only thing I`d like to try as an alternative in Feynlab Pure Wash after seeing The Guz`s positive review on Youtube. Reset is just so good at everything that I haven`t felt the need to try anything else. That said, Reset was only OK in my foam cannon, but it`s not necessarily designed to be used that way.
The Esoteric Sponge is extremely soft and squishy. It`s also much smaller than any of the mitts so it`s a much slower and more focused washing experience. The Carpro Dabdab is somewhere in the middle. I have yet to find a noddle mitt I like the feel of.
Carpro Reset has been my go to shampoo for a couple of years and the only thing I`d like to try as an alternative in Feynlab Pure Wash after seeing The Guz`s positive review on Youtube. Reset is just so good at everything that I haven`t felt the need to try anything else. That said, Reset was only OK in my foam cannon, but it`s not necessarily designed to be used that way.
Coatings=crack
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Ah…I see your point. I was always using multi-colored microfiber wash mitts and staring into those was likely akin to a bad acid trip
I think somewhere I have a Big Red Sponge and the yellow McKees equivalent but like many things for me the buying excitement superseded the actual using of them.
I’m too incompetent to do rinseless so by the time wash media touches my paint, the “It’s clean, why are you even washing it?” car has been pressure rinse and foamed so I’d likely not see much dirt with a Lilly-white sponge.
All that said, the sponges are definitely not something you’d wanna use on a muddled-up 4x4 that just crawled out of the woods…much too tender for that usage scenario!
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How do you use sponge? Two bucket? Multiple sponges?
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wannafbody
wannafbody
I`m not overly impressed with my cube cut sponge. I think it was a Simonize brand.
981 Cayman S
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2 buckets, 1 sponge. While the Corvette and Cayman are now daily drivers they still only get road grime from driving in rain & such. Not horribly dirty. I drive far less each day now.
Gonna sell my ‘Winter’ Honda, put lift in garage to store Corvette in Winter and daily drive Cayman year ‘round…tired of having 4 cars. Able to wash inside at work during Winter so that’ll help.
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