Iron X worth it for surface prep?

I like both Iron X and Wolf Decon. Wolf seems to "cling" better and I have no problem letting it sit on for 30 minutes. I would get which ever is the best priced at the time. I think either is worth the extra few minutes it takes, I charge a few dollars extra for it, not much though.
 
David Fermani said:
You're right. I guess you'd need to use Iron-X afterwards then? :party:
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You could wash the car with the Iron X Soap gel also...and wipe the Iron X paste all over the damn thing too.
 
Yes it's worth it. A few dollars in ironx to save you many x that much money in time saved is worth it to me. 50ml does a car so it's just a couple bucks per.
 
David Fermani said:
Has anyone ever totally 100% killed metal deposits using Iron-X? I did another car with it a few weeks ago (white & garage kept) and it still kept bleeding. I Iron-X(dwell/rinse) >> Clay>> Iron-X(scrubbed/aggitated/dwelled) and it still kept bleeding?? The paint was totally clean looking too? I never had these kind of doubts with an ABC wash.
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Thats interesting David! I'm going to have to use it twice next time and see what I find.
 
David Fermani said:
You're right. I guess you'd need to use Iron-X after[ValuGard's "B"] then?
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That might make for an interesting test, using them sequentially (I'm actually thinking IronX/"B"/IronX) and seeing what kind of color-change indication you got from the final IronX application.



Almost enough to make one a little cynical about the validity of that indicator, huh ;)
 
For decontaminating a car in general, I'm going to stick to ABC, but for wheels, out of convenience, I'll use Iron X. Looks like it does a nice job on drums for stuff like left over discolorization from brake dust without endless elbow grease.
 
so what is really making the iron x change color? maybe the metal is really gone after one application. would be curious to see what would happen after using the abc or fk decon.
 
I should get a chance to test iron-x and decon gel side-by-side

at the beginning of next week. I know I've seen iron-x dissolve

deposits in the paint for myself, but I've never tested it with

several re-applications to see how much it would take to make it

stop bleeding.



But, I also know that I've seen iron-x not or barely change colors at all before.



I'll play with both products some and let you guys know what kind of results I get.
 
dfazekas said:
But, I also know that I've seen iron-x not or barely change colors at all before..
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Does it depend on the color of the car? I'd imagine the color change may still be there but on certain colors, it might not be as obvious as it would be on white. Keep in mind, I've never used Iron-X or Wolf's before but I'm open to them if they do what they claim. But I'd think that for anyone to really trust these products, they would HAVE to stop bleeding out eventually. If they do it constantly,no one would have any confidence in them.
 
I have seen Iron-X barely change color on the sides of my car while it was changing a lot on the horizontal panels (especially the trunk). So I am guessing that indeed it is a contamination related change rather than product inherent feature.
 
mikenap said:
Does it depend on the color of the car? I'd imagine the color change may still be there but on certain colors, it might not be as obvious as it would be on white. Keep in mind, I've never used Iron-X or Wolf's before but I'm open to them if they do what they claim. But I'd think that for anyone to really trust these products, they would HAVE to stop bleeding out eventually. If they do it constantly,no one would have any confidence in them.
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It was on white. No lsp's or anything between it and the paint. It started bleeding around some rock chips, but other than that it was clear or light pink. On the flip side of that, I've seen it make a car bleed like crazy and visibly dissolve small specs in the paint.



That being said, I do agree that there should be a point where something about it changes so you know that it's worked. I'm curious to find out if this happens or not.
 
I used Iron-X on my daily driver that hadn't been clayed in awhile and was supsied at how much I still had to clay after.



Seeing as though clay was still necessary and only pulls off the top layer I got to thinking later that maybe it's best to use Iron-X after clay and not before. Certainly in my opinion can't be used as a replacement for clay, just another added decontamination step.



...but like others if I'm going to clay then polish the surface anyhow I really wonder how much of a benefit the Iron-x is in the first place. As others have stated wheels particularly the inners of the wheels are where I'll likely be using this product the most as opposed to paint moving forward as those areas are not getting machine polished.
 
Bill D said:
But since ABC doesn't change colors, how can we be totally certain with that either?
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I have not used IronX or similar, yet. Never seen the need. (I just do my own cars which are kept up pretty well.) I hesitate to buy it because (Besides being cheap.) I wonder if I will really see any improvement over my claying.



Am interested to see what anyone thinks about the value of such a product on already maintained cars.
 
I would think on well maintained, kept inside cars, the issue of iron contamination would be reduced, so the added value of any such product would also be minimised. I trial for the sake of it would of course be the answer :).
 
Brad B. said:
I have not used IronX or similar, yet. Never seen the need. (I just do my own cars which are kept up pretty well.) I hesitate to buy it because (Besides being cheap.) I wonder if I will really see any improvement over my claying.



Am interested to see what anyone thinks about the value of such a product on already maintained cars.
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Brad, maybe you might see the need to try it out on your new beater's wheels from driving this coming winter? :nixweiss
 
Brad B. said:
I have not used IronX or similar, yet. Never seen the need. (I just do my own cars which are kept up pretty well.) I hesitate to buy it because (Besides being cheap.) I wonder if I will really see any improvement over my claying.



Am interested to see what anyone thinks about the value of such a product on already maintained cars.
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Noting that I'm a pretty big proponent of decons systems, this might be a(nother ;) ) case of looking for problems that you don't really have. Unless there are real *issues*, like rust-blooms, which you'd see on your silver cars, then I agree...what's the point? Not like people (even people with white/silver/etc. cars) didn't get by OK without such stuff for ages.



Now if there *is* a discernable issue, well...that's different.
 
Accumulator said:
Not like people (even people with white/silver/etc. cars) didn't get by OK without such stuff for ages.



Now if there *is* a discernable issue, well...that's different.
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What I'm seeing lately, and maybe it's always been like this, is that there are legit game-changers coming out with more frequency (MF pads, coatings, possibly Iron-X,etc.) mixed in with regular flavor-of-the-month products(CG Blacklight, spray polishes, etc.) and it's harder to separate the two. I don't have the cash to guinea pig every new product, but I don't want to get left behind the new technology either.:der:
 
mikenap said:
... I don't have the cash to guinea pig every new product, but I don't want to get left behind the new technology either.:der:
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Yeah, it can be hard to tell what's worth trying and what's not...finding a good middle ground while not looking for problems ya don't really have.
 
I'm pretty sure that unless on the rest of my first bottle I really find a use for this stuff where I truely find a benefit to having it I likely won't re-order.



It's entertaining enough to use at first, and it does mean that less claying needs to be done, but it certainly doesn't replace it. On anything but the worst vehicles I'm not sure it's really worth it.
 
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